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Hey tropers, the day has arrived. If you were one of our Kickstarter donators last year you've probably seen us tinkering with a new design for months. Within the next couple hours (depending on how fast your DNS updates you'll start hitting our new servers with the updated version of TV Tropes). A huge thanks to those of you who have been monitoring it and giving us feedback throughout the development process. Some of the new features include:

- Updated design throughout for a cleaner browsing experience
- One click sign in with Facebook
- Random Shuffle button to stay on a namespace (hit Random Media then the Shuffle button to randomize that namespace)
- Browse Watchlist in an image view
- History page now highlights sentences that were deleted/added to make it easier to review changes
- New image uploader with built in crop function
- New About Us page so you can see who we are.
- Contact Us form
- Trope Depictions on the home page (artists can submit their own comic to go with a trope)
- Bug List page Query Bugs (and Query Wishlist for tech wishes) to organize and track bugs on the site.

Ok. Let the feedback begin. (See Anxiety Tropes for my current feelings)

Notes:
- Please do not bother asking for the old design to come back. The lease of the old servers did expire at the day of the changeover, the new ones cannot run the old design.
- You can move the sidebar to the left by going into your profile and selecting Lefthand Sidebar.

edited 14th Feb '16 12:48:07 PM by SeptimusHeap

SaltyWalty Since: Feb, 2016
#151: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:09:21 PM

I don't like the tape and button look of the random trope/media buttons.

chopshop Since: Jan, 2012
#152: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:09:27 PM

The sidebar is way too big for it's own good and everything seems to be taking a lot longer to load or move, at least for me. This redesign feels really haphazard. It doesn't look or feel like anything new has been added. The previous design was a lot better; I didn't love it but at least it was easy to get used to. This design just feels like an ugly mess.

THE_MAELSTROM from Right behind you Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#153: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:10:03 PM

Smeh. I liked the blue better, but I suppose I can get used to this.

What.
32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#154: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:10:06 PM

Sidebar feels a bit too wide now.

Also can we get back the option to move the sidebar to the left side of the screen?

CrazyEvilGood Since: Apr, 2013
#155: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:10:08 PM

Another complaint: why does the font change every time you change pages? E.g., going from WMG to Characters. I know that the color has pretty much always shifted but the font change is really annoying.

SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#156: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:10:34 PM

There are two wiki side fora here for wishes and here for bugs.

Please avoid duplicates and multi-issue queries, thanks!

Replies don't appear to be working right now.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#157: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:12:01 PM

Well this came out of the left field.

Straight to the point it bad. The side bar is way to big, the gray white color scheme is awful, and the layout looks way to clinical and dead. Additionally sticky header is just annoying and the lack of forum buttons on the bottom of a page is huge decrease in convenience.

That's all I noticed from five minute browsing but there's probably more. I really, really would rather go back to the previous layout.

SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
New account is voidify
#158: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:12:26 PM

This redesign looks horrible, please add revert button.

There isn't even a thread watchlist button at the bottom of the forums, FFS!

edited 8th Feb '16 2:13:33 PM by SmartGirl333

Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#159: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:12:36 PM

[up][up][up]Do people even pay attention to those places?

Perhaps this is the cynic in me talking, but that seems like an attempt to sweep certain issues under the rug.

edited 8th Feb '16 2:13:32 PM by Grounder

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#160: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:12:59 PM

As a whole, it's not bad. However there are a few things that need to be ironed out:

  • The sidebar really is too wide, leaving a lot of pointless empty space and squashing the site.
  • There are a few things that I really don't think need to be monkeyed with. The text in the main page has always been the same since the birth of the site and is kind of a staple, I don't think it needs to be changed. The classic TV Tropes teal blue color would look better than the current black, which makes the site look dreary. I also don't feel the need to change the logo.
  • The new "The All-Devouring Pop Culture Wiki" tagline is awful. It sounds pretentious and feeds the stereotype that tropers are a bunch of neckbeards. Zap it.
  • The site looks odd on mobile, although it might be an issue on my end.

edited 8th Feb '16 2:15:10 PM by WackyPancake

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hawthorn Since: Jan, 2001
#161: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:17:23 PM

I'm not fond of the "Random Trope" and "Random Media" buttons on the desktop version. The colors seem arbitrary, the sticky labels look silly, and overall it just doesn't feel like it fits with the slick new look.

The rest of the redesign, I love. ^^

SpaceWolf from The Other Rainforest Since: Apr, 2012
#162: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:17:33 PM

Night Vision still has certain readability issues.

The 'send' button is hard to read in it, unless I tilt back my screen. The same problem probably exists on other buttons.

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Hvedekorn (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#163: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:18:17 PM

While I generally like the new look of Tv Tropes, the new watchlist design is just... not sufficient, to put it very mildly. As others have mentioned, it's really a bother that it's not possible to see namespaces, and especially it annoys me that the red light that shows you a page has received a new edit is also gone, so you cannot see which pages have been edited since you last checked the watchlist.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#164: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:18:35 PM

"Ok. Let the feedback begin."

It's...Interesting...

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edited 8th Feb '16 2:20:13 PM by Joesolo

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brb1006 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#165: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:18:38 PM

I like the new look, but I really miss having an easier access to the Discussion page, but what I miss the most is that I can't tell if any of the Trope pages and shows that were in my watchlist got updated. I really miss seeing the red icon on your watchlist to tell that a trope page just got updated. This new design is going to take alot of time for me to getting used to.

Yugnat Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#166: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:19:58 PM

Oh also, while I'm at it. Very disappointed by the removal of the "Preview" button. I used that all the time, due to often creating pages from scratch. Any reason why this felt necessary ?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#167: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:20:13 PM

Just going around in the mobile site I can name a few issues right off the bat.

  • mobile sidebar is too big. It takes up the entire screen rather than just the side. A minor thing though, one I can likely get used to.
  • the old version had the page number buttons in a thread in such a way that the page you were currently on could be identified by the fact it wasn't a link. New version all buttons are identical, I was just going through the US politics thread and wasn't sure if/when I had a new page to go to. A definite issue on fast moving threads like that one.
  • The forum avatars are aligned to the left rather than above the posts, which scrunches up the text on the right, making for less spread out reading.

edited 8th Feb '16 2:21:32 PM by sgamer82

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon
#168: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:20:18 PM

I'd thought we were going to have comments on the trope pages.

I guess that never came to fruition.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
FantiSci Since: Jan, 2001
#169: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:20:26 PM

I really like the highlighting of changes in history - makes life much easier, rather than having to play "spot the difference" only to find that someone' has just taken umbrage with "colour" having a "u" in it. The new layout also makes the ads less intrusive, which is really nice.

That said, I can't say I enjoy the colour scheme. The tropes themselves look really generic, and it's difficult for the eye to differentiate between different parts of the trope page. Switching to Wide Load does makes pages slightly easier to read, but I think if I was to come across the wiki for the first time today, I wouldn't get the sense that this was a fun place to be and stick around - I'd just look up what I came for. I think it's going for a "professional" look, but it just looks incredibly neutral..

It might simply be the shock of the new, but it looks a bit more like the "preview changes" format than the main wiki. I also don't see anything on the Watchlist to indicate changes made since my last visit to the Watchlist page - am I missing something?

These are only initial thoughts - I imagine I, like most tropers, will adapt - but I do think using colour to break up the pages a little would be really helpful.

SpaceWolf from The Other Rainforest Since: Apr, 2012
#170: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:20:33 PM

PMs have the same Night Vision problem as the 'send' button.

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Virodhi Since: Jul, 2009
#171: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:20:51 PM

Okay, this legit makes me frown. I just switched from desktop to my phone, and the site looks fantastic here. Everything is nice and compact, which makes the white not overwhelming at all; the header actually has a little space at the edges, making it look balanced. I approve!

...and on desktop you get the exact same elements, only with however much white filler it takes to bloat the page until it fills the screen.

Now I'm not sure how I feel about the desktop experience being sacrificed to the gods of mobile viewing/editing.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#172: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:21:14 PM

I've just deleted one duplicate query (by ~Boxen) and one wishlist item that belongs here (by ~Midna - about the slogan on the main page). Please check whether something has been reported already before filing a new report, thanks!

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#173: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:21:18 PM

I can no longer tell what page I'm on in the thread because the number isn't faded out, which can get troublesome in really long pages in threads like the US Politics. Can we go back to graying that out, or adding in "next" buttons for moving through the pages of a thread?

desdendelle Hooded Crow from Land of Milk and Honey (Sergeant) Relationship Status: Hiding
Hooded Crow
#174: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:21:22 PM

OK, I'm really not fond of the huge empty space below the sidebar, which is way too wide in my opinion. Further, the text in the 'refresh', 'watched threads list' buttons and the 'you've seen all the latest posts, desdendelle' bit in the thread watchlist page is waaaay too small.
EDIT: the lack of bar (the place where you have the 'thread watchlist', 'mark as read', etc buttons) at the bottom of the page is annoying.

edited 8th Feb '16 2:22:12 PM by desdendelle

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Blaze_Vortex The Unlurking Sentinel from The Youtube Comment Section Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: In denial
The Unlurking Sentinel
#175: Feb 8th 2016 at 2:21:54 PM

I was just starting to understand the ins and outs of the previous design. And now, there's a new one. Well, I gotta say, I've been on the new design for only 10 minutes, so the only complaint I have right now is that the "Random Trope" and "Random Media" buttons are incredibly ugly. They're very out of place, they look like they should be on the "TV Tropes Kidz" site, if that existed, and I'm frustrated by how you have to press the seperate button itself and can't press the larger word parts of it that make up 70% of the image! Also, where is Administrivia? I'm kinda new to having an account anyways, so where can I find Administrivia to figure out how to link to tropes in forum posts?

The TV Tropes logo on the header is nice though, I have to admit.

Fun Fact: I came up with the "Unlurking Sentinel" name because I was intending to stop being a Lurker. I don't think it worked.

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