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Silverblade2 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Feb 4th 2016 at 11:23:43 AM

This trivia is misused a lot (like Hey Its That Guy). This is supposed to be when a character shares a specific voice with another character.

I often see any role association. ex: on Batman: The Animated Series

This is wrong because Mark Hamill obviously doesn't use the same voice for Luke and the Joker. You wouldn't guess they share the same actor if it wasn't for the credits.

Or just listing the voice actors and their resume like this page Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2012. It this case Hey Its That Voice is sometimes used instead of the more accurate Celebrity Voice Actor.

Do you think or to be rewritten or cut?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Feb 4th 2016 at 5:54:58 PM

Thank you for laying out the misuse issues beautifully.

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Karxrida Art by @airzura from Rarepair Hell Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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Feb 4th 2016 at 5:57:09 PM

I personally hate this trope because all to does is attract horribly written examples rife with Sinkholes and Example Indentation violations.

The problem is that it has over 1000 inbounds, so we can't get rid of it.

edited 4th Feb '16 6:01:00 PM by Karxrida

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Silverblade2 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Feb 5th 2016 at 4:05:42 AM

I admit I'm not found of this neither. As well as Hey Its That Voice which basically feels like "omg Professional actors play in more than one movie."

Zenos Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Feb 5th 2016 at 7:07:41 AM

I know that this trope, along with "Relationship Voice Actor" + "Actor Allusion" have a tendency to get out of hand. A lot of Trivia pages for anime are mostly comprised of "(Character 1) is voice by Bob, who also played a minor character in (Unrelated Show), which (Character 2)'s voice actress also played a role in."

crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Feb 5th 2016 at 7:23:54 AM

I personally hate this trope because all to does is attract horribly written examples rife with Sinkholes and Example Indentation violations.
I hate it, too. With anime, I have to first figure out which Voice Actor they mean (Japanese dub or translation dub, then which translation) and then cross reference to check if the example is correct, or if they just sounded similar.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Feb 5th 2016 at 9:56:34 AM

It's clear that many tropers have something against Hey Its That Guy and Hey Its That Voice. I don't like them either, but what are we planning to do about them?

I think the ubiquitous misuse of these two might be a good argument for purging them despite their thousands of inbounds; TV Tropes has excised some pages with large numbers of inbounds before.

Karxrida Art by @airzura from Rarepair Hell Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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Feb 5th 2016 at 6:59:00 PM

For what it's worth, I think Actor Allusion is worth keeping. It just needs a bit of scrubbing.

When in doubt, In Universe Examples Only.

edited 5th Feb '16 7:00:51 PM by Karxrida

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Feb 5th 2016 at 8:12:30 PM

Cut both Hey Its That Voice and Hey Its That Guy. They are dumb and terrible.

Berrenta Hashire sori yo... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Feb 5th 2016 at 8:18:20 PM

I've pondered about it a bit, and I wouldn't mind a cut. All too often references to another work get used and require some knowledge to get the point across, and sometimes indents go out of hand.

Feb 5th 2016 at 8:26:19 PM

Well I thought Hey it's that voice is for works where X voice is so different from another voice that it is shocking that the voice is done by the same person.

Feb 6th 2016 at 8:20:13 AM

[up] That would be Man of a Thousand Voices.

I'll agree that these pages seem way too subjective. Either everything is listed from a This Troper perspective, or every appearance of an actor is accompanied by a list of all their other roles (which you could see anyway just by clicking on the name of the actor).

Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Relationship Status: Mu
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Feb 6th 2016 at 10:12:54 AM

Both Hey Its That Voice and Hey Its That Guy get used for when a character is played by a certain (usually recognizable) actor, which seems borderline People Sit on Chairs, especially for actors with a long filmography, and some examples list a character from another work rather than the actor.

edited 6th Feb '16 10:15:17 AM by Josef5678

Feb 6th 2016 at 1:27:34 PM

Yeah. I think we should redefine the trope to "actor uses voice for several different characters". Hey It'sThatGuy can be redefined as "Actor plays tons of bit parts"

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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Feb 6th 2016 at 1:35:24 PM

Bit parts tend to be uncredited ("Various voices" means we don't know which).

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Karxrida Art by @airzura from Rarepair Hell Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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Feb 6th 2016 at 1:36:27 PM

Is cutting even an option with the amount of inbounds these pages have?

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
SeptimusHeap Farewell, NEOWISE from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Feb 6th 2016 at 1:44:53 PM

Sometimes it is, but I am rather dubious that I'd implement a cut here. These "Hey, It's that X!" "tropes" have been handled like games in the past, if memory serves, not entirely seriously.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Feb 6th 2016 at 1:48:42 PM

In my opinion, such games would best be left to forum threads.

Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Relationship Status: Mu
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Feb 6th 2016 at 3:15:58 PM

If it's just treated as a game rather than legitimate triva, it should either be a forum thing or go to the JustForFun/ namespace.

Feb 6th 2016 at 7:18:22 PM

Hey Its That Guy is not a trope and we all know it isn't a trope, and it should be cut on that basis.

NativeJovian from Orlando, FL
Feb 6th 2016 at 7:44:23 PM

It's not intended to be a trope. That's why it's in Trivia.

Vos iustus a diversis genus delirus.
Karxrida Art by @airzura from Rarepair Hell Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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Feb 6th 2016 at 7:56:59 PM

And it's honestly a really crappy Trivia item.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Feb 6th 2016 at 7:57:02 PM

[up]It isn't trivia either. "This person, who was in this movie, was also in this other movie."

People Sit On Chairs and actors act in films.

Feb 7th 2016 at 1:33:57 AM

Stories pop up like this one all the time, it's a thing, IMO it gotta be 'you wouldn't necessarily notice unless you were directly told' like Daniel Craig in Star Wars.

Maybe a real trope like Man of a Thousand Voices which would include a minimum of 2 completely different voices instead of 1000, or expand that one. Cause there are plenty of actors out there that can do 2 extremely different voices, to the point it's shocking. Aya Hirano has a Haruhi voice and a Konata voice and that's pretty much it but she made her name with those two voices.

There are also actors out there which have no range and sound exactly the same in every work they have ever done, *cough*Johnny Yong Bosch*cough*

edited 7th Feb '16 1:40:58 AM by Memers

Feb 7th 2016 at 2:59:14 AM

A previous attempt to redefine Hey Its That Guy to match its misuse was actually voted down.

I'm still shaking my head over the logic, if any, involved.

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13th Feb '16 7:15:37 AM
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