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LE0Night Since: Jul, 2011
#1: Jan 12th 2016 at 3:19:12 PM

Apparently due to start its production phase shortly, though for some reason the word "reboot" has been thrown into the mix as well:

"No, it’s all going to be a brand new franchise. All original. All original characters, different directors, and an entire new team that this is coming from."

I can't imagine what they intend to achieve with this. It has been a few years since the last one and it is a different set of producers working on it now, but still. "Original characters"?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#2: Jan 12th 2016 at 3:23:22 PM

How can The Silver Chair be a reboot? It's a direct sequel to a direct sequel to a direct sequel. If they were going for a reboot, they should have just used The Magician's Nephew.

edited 12th Jan '16 3:23:50 PM by LordVatek

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#3: Jan 12th 2016 at 3:54:31 PM

I guess they have a slighter easier job in that all the Pevensie kids are out of the story now so the focus on all the books from now on is on new characters.

Though I doubt Will Poulter will return as Eustace. It's been five years since the last one!

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#4: Jan 12th 2016 at 4:01:57 PM

Oh, they are still making these! I thought they would quit with Voyage of the Dawn Treader.

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#5: Jan 12th 2016 at 4:02:13 PM

@Announcement

Hahaha, oh wow, hahaha, ah...

Well, good luck.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#6: Jan 12th 2016 at 4:07:45 PM

If they get to The Last Battle I wonder if and how they'll tweak the infamous Esoteric Happy Ending.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#7: Jan 12th 2016 at 4:45:24 PM

[up]I hope they show the Susan crying over their corpses inter-cut by the rest of the good cast, holding hands and dancing in heaven with Aslan.

edited 12th Jan '16 4:45:32 PM by MadSkillz

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#8: Jan 12th 2016 at 4:53:52 PM

I doubt they'd get that far, really.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#10: Jan 19th 2016 at 1:18:48 PM

[up][up]If Silver Chair is okay Last Battle is pretty within reach. They could just skip Horse And His Boy and Magician'sNephew.

LE0Night Since: Jul, 2011
#11: Jan 19th 2016 at 1:53:25 PM

I'm a little bit miffed that we've most likely been robbed of the sight of a seven foot tall witch-clad Tilda Swinton smacking around police officers with a lamppost.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#12: Jan 19th 2016 at 2:15:32 PM

Personally speaking, I prefer those two books over the later books of the series. Watching Narnia get created would be cool and I thought Horse and His Boy would be neat world building too.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#13: Jan 19th 2016 at 5:28:18 PM

The Last Battle is definitely too esoteric to roll with. The entire story only makes sense as a kid-friendly Book of Revelations or Left Behind sort of thing. The other Narnia books were graciously much more subtle about their religious allegories.

In the Silver Chair, the only thing close to being anvilicious is when The Lady makes obvious straw atheist arguments to try to disprove the existence of anything outside of her realm.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#14: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:50:21 PM

The Horse and His Boy is one of the best in the entire Narnia Chronicles. Skipping that would be daft. And also counterproductive since it's about a horse. Girls as a group tend to like movies about horses. Just go back and look at the audience figures for the Black Stallion movie if ya don't believe me.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#15: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:06:00 PM

Eh, Horse and his Boy doesn't really add anything to any story, it's just a side story.

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#16: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:15:24 PM

I really need to reread the books...

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#17: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:17:13 PM

Given the track record of the previous films I just don't see Silver Chair doing well enough for the studio to agree to 3 more movies, and if they even do get a sequel they might as well jump to the end.

'Course the film could turn out amazing and they do all the remaining books and remake the previous three with the new "rebooted" style.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#18: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:20:36 PM

The Horse and His Boy is a great book, but it being a side-story crimps its adaptability. Which is a shame for its chances, but Lewis never intended his books to go onscreen. He just wrote about whatever he wanted. Only four of the Narnia books are direct followups, unlike the films of our time that have established serialized storytelling, like Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and the MCU.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:30:34 PM

Horse and his Boy, I could see being made if the Narnia movies were way more successful than they are - not saying they're bad, but I'm talking Harry Potter levels of successful. It's a side story in the way that the upcoming Fantastic Beasts is and the appearance of the adult Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe characters is more or less a cameo.

Magician's Nephew, likewise but somewhat more likely, given it's a prequel and ties directly to the first movie.

Last Battle, don't have anything to add other than what bugs me the most is not the Revelations parallels but the whole deal with Susan's arbitrary Heel-Face-I don't believe in faeries-turn. :P

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#20: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:33:16 PM

Then why not change it to have Susan NOT stop believing and go to Narnia with them or something?

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#21: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:35:16 PM

Because then you miss the message it was supposed to give. BTW, what message was it supposed to give?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#22: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:37:30 PM

It's been interpreted as everything from "Always have an imagination" to "Women suck." We can't exactly ask Lewis, can we?

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:38:06 PM

[up][up][up]Because that gets into a whole host of other issues with adaptations changing major plot points of books, etc. :P

Maybe I could get behind it if they gave it the Adaptation Expansion treatment, writing scenes from the Pevensie kids' perspective that showed the character development.

Edit to add: relevant essay (and also references a short story by Neil Gaiman which goes into it).

edited 19th Jan '16 7:42:17 PM by Elle

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#24: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:41:43 PM

I mean, the ending sucked, quite frankly. Changing it would be a goddamn blessing, consequences be damned. If Peter Jackson could remove the Scouring of the Shire, then someone else can remove Susan not going to Narnia (or hell, remove a good deal of the bullshit that made it esoteric in the first place).

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:52:46 PM

I think the intention was that Lewis wanted to show that even the devout can fall away from God to the world. The Last Battle has tons of allegories for different types of believers and non-believers: the dwarves who refuse to believe they're in heaven, the Calormen leader who summons Tash without actually believing in him, the Calormen who's accepted into heaven by doing good in the name of Tash instead of Aslan, the ape as the false prophet, etc. And Lewis even claimed in a letter that perhaps one day Susan might find her way back to Narnia.

But the reason why it comes off as contrived and sorta sexist is because Susan's fall happens entirely offscreen. The only reason we're ever given is some exposition about her trying to act more adult and getting really into "lipsticks and nylons". So it's really anticlimactic and lets readers' own views run wild.

edited 19th Jan '16 7:53:15 PM by Tuckerscreator


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