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I hope that the final game allows for Yandere-chan to set her rivals up with other girls (or, if the developers don't put it in the final game, someone makes a mod for it). I want to be able to create a Yuritopia.
I read on the wiki that the matchmakable partners for the rivals will all be male even if Senpai is female. Everyone Is Bi will be in full effect it seems
Hence my desire for a mod to be available to make it possible for rival girls to be set up with other girls. Just for fun, the mod should turn all male characters into palette swaps of Female Senpai. Everyone wins in that case!
edited 25th Jul '16 3:57:36 PM by dragonfire5000
Well, yes, I'm getting the impression that she's a Villain Protagonist and intentionally disturbing but... I can't help but feel it crosses a bit of a line somewhere. "Yeah, our players can kidnap and mine rape other students into a mentally broken husk and use them to muder-suicide another underage girl! And look at all the other meticulous planning for murders we can do!'
I know that game can be a bit of a hot button for some people, but Hatred could be comparable here. I feel like it'll totally hit its intended audience (size to be determined) and everyone even vaguely outside of it will go 'WTF'.
It's one thing when the player gets bored in GTA and goes on a rampage and the game punishes you for it, but there's another when the Game's entire gameplay and concept revolves around it.
Not trying to sound like I'm complaining, but maybe there's some good discussion to be had here.
Counterpoint: Hitman series and the Hunger Games.
You're still killing people for selfish gains either way..
Not to say that the murder of teenagers are more or less terrible than that of adults, but that's a whole 'nother can of worm.
The difference between Yandere Simulator and Hatred is that Cruelty Is the Only Option is not present in the former. You have non-heinous ways of dealing with rivals, and any heinous acts committed are done by player choice.
Well, there is an abudance of violent options over non-violent ones still.
Hatred lacks any semblance of creativity as well. Here you need to think, especially once the final game rolls out and there will be a lot more students in school. It is quite like Hitman series in that regard.
Well, I feel there's a difference between all three of those. With Hitman, the violence is still, well, violent, but the way its portrayed and done is rather tonally different. Its hard to take dropping a Piano on someone's head or dressing up as a clown to reach your target successfully so seriously. There's a different tone there. One of an action movie with a level of romantization like that of James Bond or something. Its kind of hard to romanticize killing teenagers and especially over something so petty as 'Senpai hasn't noticed me'.
With Hunger Games, the point IS how horrifying that teenagers are killing each other. That's explicitly a plot point. You're supposed to be horrified by the things Katniss goes through. I don't feel like Yandere Simulator wants the audience to be horrified by this if its avaliable and kind of encouraged by the gameplay.
Here... The game shows us kidnapping someone, the game shows a teenage girl tied up and frightened in her basement, it tells us how long she's been tortured until mentally broken, it shows us how broken she is, and it very graphically shows us killing another teenager and herself. Oh, and we can sell panty shots to someone as though they were currency...
Not to mention, considering the goal is to 'get the guy', wouldn't such graphic murders and disappearances pretty much ruin that goal anyway???
If the point of the game is to have a game where you eliminate targets in various ways and to be smart about completing objectives, why is it set in a high school with underage students? If the objective is to have a Japanese High School with teenagers and school girls, why have such dark and kind of disturbing method of gameplay?
You do know what a Yandere is, right?
Yes, and your point is?
I'm just kind of confused as to most of the motivation behind some of the content in the game. I realize that the dev has said multiple times that Yandere is a sociopath and a monster, but that just makes me question things even more.
edited 3rd Aug '16 4:49:44 AM by InkDagger
I think it's due to the Dev sticking to original design choice, which began at 4chan. The Dev must have felt the benefits of the draw and appeal of the Yandere character outweigh the cons.
I mean, they could have reskinned the characters and places, set it in a college, super spy training school, Sith academy, hell, even a retirement home. Senpai could have straight up been a cardboard cutout or body pillow, for all the "character" he is. Yet they chose a high school with cute main char and NP Cs. The main character's crouch animation straight up shows her panty.
My thinking is, the Dev wanted to make a Hitman game, with cute aesthestic pandering. There's nothing wrong with that.
Also, unlike in Hitman, Yandere-chan has non-lethal and non-heinous options to deal with her rivals. Sure, there are many ways to do horrible things to your rivals. But the game also gives you options on not doing horrible things. For me, the draw of this game is the fact that I can ask "How do I keep these girls away from Yandere-chan's future girlfriend while not ruining their lives?"
Speaking of which, why isn't there an option to set the rival girls up with other rival girls? Not only does it create a Yuritopia, but it also kills two birds with one stone!
Doesn't the fact that she interferes with her lover's prospects count as doing henious act against her purported "love interest"?
Even though the Senpai seems to be the wettest of blankets, heh.
I might be wrong, but the love rivals haven't yet confessed to Senpai, with any such confession counting as the Game Over state. You're trying to make sure that the love rivals never get to the 'confession stage,' whether it be through heinous or non-heinous means.
You're right, though there are supposed to be non-confess Rival as well. Little sis'd make him/her promise not to have a girlfriend, for example.
I guess it's murky. You, the character, knew the rivals would confess. You, the player, knew the wet blanket would accept the confession. Therefore, you're interfering with the wet blanket's chance of happiness though sabotage. It'd be better if she just screws up her courage and confess as soon as possible, but that wouldn't be much of a game.
That is my point. The game is called Yandere simulator, thus the point of the game is to act like an Yandere. The highschool aspect is because Yanderes are typically highschool girls, as with most anime that isn't set in a fantasy world. The dark and extreme methods they use despite there being less violent ways of doing things is part of the appeal of the Yandere character. The idea of a schoolgirl going to such extremes just to be with a guy who has less personality than a unpainted wall is so ridiculous that it becomes kind of charming, even funny if you think about it. I'm pretty sure the game wouldn't have such popularity if the highschool romance aspect was cut out.
At bottom, what's most disturbing about the game's concept is not being a villain and winning, but that you are winning the love of someone kind-hearted. If it were for wealth, for the affection of another villain or even to enslave the world, it would feel fitting. Doing evil for love is jarring at a deeper level.
Still, you know what mod would be perfect for this game? A two-player crossover with Undertale where Frisk is the last rival.
No, make Vivio the last rival. Or Homura in Yuri Mode. Wach Hilarity Ensues.
People do stupid and misguided things for love all the times. Is it that much of a stretch to be malicious for it?
No, but the point is that its the Player Character who does these things. There's being malicious and then there's being homicidal. And I totally think that a character can be Yandere without resorting to... cutting teenage girls into tiny pieces, the torture thing again, and gratuitous panty shots of underage girls against their consent to be sold to an unrelated adult woman. That's child pornography, by the way.
I look at half of this and just ask, why?
I think its also important to consider that Video Games ask a lot more of their audience. Books, TV, and Movies have a stronger 4th Wall and there's an even bigger divide between protagonist/main character and the audience. With Video Games, you're asked to participate in the actions and terms such as 'Audience' and 'Player Character/Main Character/Protagonist' are synonymous in most contexts.
After reading into so much of it, I really want Senpai to come out as gay at the end of the game just to be an F U to the player character.
edited 4th Aug '16 3:33:06 AM by InkDagger
I have somewhere between 0 and No respect for the "character" Senpai, but treating someone's sexual orientation as a punchline is fairly crass.
Your other points are pretty fair, though. Just agree it's a difference in thinking and following through with an original concept that starts in a weird place, yeah?
But if female Senpai comes out as gay, isn't that just dandy for the protagonist?
We have more than enough, disturbing, badly written Marimite fanfiction in internet, thank you very much.
It took me a moment to realise that that didn't read "Marmite". It was a confusing time for me.
Marmite could probably apply to fanfiction in general.
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