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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#6001: Jan 16th 2016 at 2:15:26 PM

Kevin Smith: The movie is all terrible jokes that they take fifteen minutes to explain and Finn's excuse for everything is 'Sorry, first day on the job."

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#6002: Jan 16th 2016 at 2:20:23 PM

J.J.Abrams:.....Holy shit it actually was directed by him.

HisInfernalMajesty Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#6003: Jan 16th 2016 at 2:20:28 PM

Stanley Kubrick: The film ends with Kylo Ren trying to break down a door with his lightsaber to get to Rey, culminating in a chase scene through the snowy woods where he freezes to death. And just when we think Starkiller has been destroyed, a giant BB-8 floats in-frame over the Resistance's planet, ending with an epic Mind Screw.

edited 16th Jan '16 2:21:17 PM by HisInfernalMajesty

"A king has no friends. Only subjects and enemies."
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#6004: Jan 16th 2016 at 2:55:32 PM

I am genuinely fascinated by the idea of Stanley Kubrick directing a Star Wars movie.

TheFarmboy You can go home, Courier from Mojave Wasteland (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
You can go home, Courier
#6005: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:10:19 PM

Quentin Tarantino: Finn is replaced with an old Mace Windu who now has a penchant for blaster rifles. He shoots Kylo until he's like Uncle Own and aunt Beru.

I got spurs, that jingle-jangle-jingle!
lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#6006: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:28:15 PM

I approve of Kubrick Star Wars. I'm fairly certain that Disney has enough money to invent resurrection as well.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#6007: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:40:26 PM

Guy Ritchie/Mathew Vaughan Star Wars:

The movie is entirely about Han and Chewie trying to escape those two gangs of mobsters.

The movie ends shortly after Rey and Finn fortuitously release that creature that Han is carrying, which eats the members of the gangs.

Alica Vikander plays Rey.

That actually sounds like a pretty cool film.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#6009: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:57:48 PM

Another thing for JW's Star Wars would be idiots on Tumblr shrieking about how mysoginistic he is with no proof.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#6010: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:03:26 PM

Criticizing Whedon for using certain kinds of tropes in his writing isn't the same thing as calling him a misogynist.

edited 16th Jan '16 5:07:25 PM by higherbrainpattern

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#6011: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:09:20 PM

JW can be misogynistic in his writing. Maybe it's not intentional but that's how it is for a lot of writers and it doesn't matter. It's been known to seep through.

edited 16th Jan '16 5:10:10 PM by MadSkillz

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#6012: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:10:18 PM

Wait what? I thought Joss was considered to handle female characters very well?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6013: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:12:59 PM

From what little I've seen of his work, Joss seems to believe that to make a female character "strong" all they need is be snarky and standoffish and able to beat people up, with the occasional brief emotional moment that they tend to work through by being snarky, standoffish or by beating people up. I don't know about misogynistic (since his male characters are sometimes like that as well, though not as much), but imo it does limit their range and make them rather flat.

edited 16th Jan '16 5:15:16 PM by KnownUnknown

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#6014: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:18:48 PM

Oh, or how about the season 4 scene when Spike discovers he’s been chipped by the Initiative? When he bursts into Willow’s dorm room and takes her down to the bed in a clear parallel to a rape scene, and it goes to commercial, and when it comes back, Willow is comforting him about his inability to bite [rape] and also wondering whether she’s not attractive enough to be bitten [raped]. The amount of sexual violence on this show is absolutely appalling, especially in later seasons between Spike and Buffy.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#6015: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:19:20 PM

Yeah, Whedon's idea of a Strong Female Character is more that they can beat people up/fire guns while snarking in Buffy Speak, not being particularly well-written.

edited 16th Jan '16 5:19:58 PM by higherbrainpattern

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#6016: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:21:24 PM

kylo ren: hey hux did i ever tell you that i hate women. because hoo boy do i hate women a lot and i'm very blatant about it because im the villain and i need the audience to know that. im still going to be weirdly sympathetic though

rey: *takes off her shoes very slowly before snapping some guys neck with her thighs or whatever*

poe, looking straight into the fucking camera: wow thats hot AND it proves that women can fight

...Does he actually write like this?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#6017: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:24:26 PM

He really doesn't. Joss Whedon is a great writer; some people just have a hate-on for him for some reason.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#6018: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:25:41 PM

@Pushover Age of Ultron. 'Nuff said.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#6019: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:27:30 PM

poor example since PMC loves that movie lol

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#6020: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:27:54 PM
TheFarmboy You can go home, Courier from Mojave Wasteland (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
You can go home, Courier
#6021: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:29:25 PM

[up][up]PMC?

I got spurs, that jingle-jangle-jingle!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#6022: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:30:53 PM

The three capitalized letters in my name.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#6023: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:30:57 PM

pushovermediacritic aka the poster right above you. [nja]

i was mostly saying it because i remembered an argument in the marvel thread about Ao U and how divisive it was.

my only real experience with whedon's writing is the first Avengers film, which I didn't care for.

edited 16th Jan '16 5:31:11 PM by wehrmacht

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#6024: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:30:57 PM

@Cassidy: That's pretty much making fun of how Whedon writes certain characters on Firefly and the MCU.

"Rey" is River Tam and Kylo Ren is Loki.

edited 16th Jan '16 5:32:03 PM by higherbrainpattern

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#6025: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:33:09 PM

[up] ...Eh, "mewling quim" aside, Loki doesn't really act like that.

Oh God! Natural light!

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