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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#5826: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:04:49 PM

Wow thats dumb.

That's dumber than what they did with Dathomir which is dumbness which eclipses the dumbness of the work that Dathomir was even introduced in.

Super Dumb.

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#5827: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:06:05 PM

Huh. I just assumed that her mother must have been Twi'lek. She looks like she could be his kid.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#5828: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:06:17 PM

She's not Maul's daughter. She's neither the same species, nor does she live in the same time period. Lucas just tried to retcon her into being Maul's daughter in some video game which never got made. Or rather, re-appropriate her design into a character who would have ties to Maul.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#5829: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:08:38 PM

Twi'leks can interbreed with all species. Or was that Asari? Regardless, there's plenty of half-breeds.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#5830: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:09:11 PM

I'm not sure if Darth Maul has any progeny although he has two brothers, Feral and Savage Opress.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#5831: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:12:27 PM

god damnit what baby book did their mother get names out of

Sun Tzu?

[up][up] Actually, does star wars have half-breeds? It doesn't seem to be a thing that comes up very often.

I remember in one of the rogue squadron books, Gavin Darklighter was planning on adopting because he was going to marry a goat-esque bothan.

But then she faked her own death to flip the bird to Bosk Fey'la or whatever.

edited 13th Jan '16 1:13:39 PM by Bocaj

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#5832: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:14:21 PM

Nonsense and other comments.

Item One: Maul was a Zabrak, Talon was a Twi'lek. Two completely different species that can't interbreed.

Item Two: Talon is from an era roughly 200 years after TPM. So they couldn't even be acquainted, much less friends/lovers/relatives.

Just because they're both Sith, both have red skin, and both have similar tattoos, means absolutely nothing. Lucas saw them both and did an Ass Pull, and when somebody called him out on it, he threw a tantrum. Everybody else did the sensible thing and ignored him.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#5833: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:15:36 PM

Oh, the equivalent of saying that Flint Marco and Norman Osborn were related because they had the same hair style except even dumber

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#5834: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:15:49 PM

Wait, did Darth Maul ever die after being brought back in Clone Wars?

edited 13th Jan '16 1:16:28 PM by LordVatek

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#5835: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:17:09 PM

I would just like to point out that Colin Trevarrow is not a bad director. He might be a bad writer (although Safety Not Guaranteed was awesome), but in the directing department, he's great. And I heard that the third movie would actually be plotted and/or written by Rian Johnson, so I'm good with Trevorrow as director.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#5836: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:18:52 PM

Lucas always considered his canon different than the rest of the EU. He did adopt interesting ideas, names and characters into his canon, like Aayla Secura. He might have been trying to do the same with Talon, and was annoyed that he apparently can't because the EU says so.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#5837: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:20:16 PM

[up][up][up] Nope. In my mind, he quit the Sith business and went on to raise his kids, nieces and nephews after the clone wars and the rise of the empire.

Alternatively, he joined the Rebel Alliance. It's kept hush-hush because you know he's a Sith Lord.

[up]Yeah the EU that GL didn't explore was really only canon unless George Lucas decided to write about it.

edited 13th Jan '16 1:21:16 PM by MadSkillz

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#5838: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:23:45 PM

Item One: Maul was a Zabrak, Talon was a Twi'lek. Two completely different species that can't interbreed.

The Human species was able to interbreed with the Coynite,[1] Echani,[2] Ferroan,[3] Hamadryas,[4] Kiffar,[5] Miraluka,[6] Nagai,[7] Theelin,[8] Twi'lek, and a number of other species.[9] When Humans bred with the Kalai, the resulting offspring were known as Lethagoe[10] and with the Zabrak the Dathomirians.[11]

Nope.

Item Two: Talon is from an era roughly 200 years after TPM. So they couldn't even be acquainted, much less friends/lovers/relatives.

So? We don't know how long his species lives do we? He survived being cut in half too.

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#5839: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:25:19 PM

Damn humans are the sluts of space or of magical lands of enchantment.

Them and dragons.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#5840: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:26:26 PM

Wait, Darth Maul is half-human then??? He's Dathomirian.

Interesting.

edited 13th Jan '16 1:26:37 PM by MadSkillz

Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#5841: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:26:37 PM

I remember the original line was that Twi'leks and humans couldn't interbreed, though later on The Clone Wars broke that rule with a human/Twi'lek couple with hybrid kids.

Twi'leks I don't think were ever like the asari in that sense, where the asari could able to breed with everyone. I don't think there was ever much discussion on what species could do the oo-lah-lah with whatever other non-humans.

edited 13th Jan '16 1:29:24 PM by Lavaeolus

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#5842: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:26:39 PM

Just because humans can interbreed with Zabrak and Twi'Leks doesn't mean the two can interbreed with each other.

They could be an example of ring species.

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#5843: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:28:46 PM

[up]x5 Yeah, but Human DNA doesn't even enter the equation. You're adding 2+2 and coming up with 6.

Besides, a lot of Lucas' ideas wound up on the cutting room floor. This one didn't even make it that far.

edited 13th Jan '16 1:45:33 PM by pwiegle

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#5844: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:30:22 PM

Actually, humans being able to breed with aliens is just weird.

At least in magical lands of enchantment, they all come from the same planet.

Twi'leks and humans aren't even from the same star system.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#5845: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:30:45 PM

Wait, Darth Maul is half-human then??? He's Dathomirian.

Interesting.

The famous Sith Lord Darth Maul was believed to be a full-blooded Zabrak, though he was in fact a Dathomirian[8] with a full-blooded Human mother.[9]

Yep.

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#5846: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:31:18 PM

[up][up]Maybe they evolved from early human settlers? They do look rather humanoid after all.

edited 13th Jan '16 1:31:37 PM by Antiteilchen

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#5847: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:32:46 PM

Sounds like Rassilon is up to his old tricks again, that scamp

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#5848: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:32:46 PM

@bocaj They all came from the same planet a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

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#5849: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:33:15 PM

you might as well question why all these aliens are similar enough to humans that we can even relate to their thoughts and desires.

at some point in sci-fi you just kind of have to let it go unless you're trying to break the mold.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#5850: Jan 13th 2016 at 1:51:20 PM

Hey, we all have bilateral symmetry, right? So we can totes interbreed.


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