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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#5576: Jan 11th 2016 at 7:29:13 AM

Mad Skillz: Luke had training and he was training himself for the past two years.

You're overestimating the level of training Luke had. No, he wasn't training himself for the past two years. He was trying to find some way to train during those years, but he wasn't having success in that area.

Basically, he got that 30 seconds worth of training from Obi-Wan to "use the Force" and was able to wing it for three years after that, and then he knew he had to get training from Yoda in order to have a chance against Vader.

edited 11th Jan '16 7:33:41 AM by higherbrainpattern

RunoEddie Since: Sep, 2010
#5577: Jan 11th 2016 at 8:25:21 AM

Luke spent three years "rediscovering" what the force can do, that's not "without training".

It's not efficient training, but it is still better than nothing.

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#5578: Jan 11th 2016 at 8:35:19 AM

Obi-Wan's had several love interests through both canon and Legends. He's hardly immune.

Also in Moulin Rouge!

He has another name there but he clearly has the emotional maturity and understanding of the depths of romance befitting of a monk raised to forego emotional attachments. His entire concept of romance is screaming the word LOVE at people, not unlike Anakin.

I like to think of that movie as a brief attempt at a secret romance that Obi-Wan attempted when he was young; a lesson he carried with him into his facepalm over Anakin's disastrous efforts.

edited 11th Jan '16 8:35:33 AM by TobiasDrake

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#5579: Jan 11th 2016 at 10:25:14 AM

Luke had the convenience of a Time Skip to explore more facets of the force. Three years of isolated training and he barely was able to pull his lightsaber out of snow and ice with extreme concentration. Even in a general sense he was a more confident fighter with how he took down the AT-AT after his speeder was shot down. It's the same thing between TESB and ROTJ, he got no additional training from Yoda in the Time Skip but using that greater foundation he was a much more confident Jedi. Time Skips are magical that way, same with a Training Montage.

willyolio Since: Jan, 2001
#5580: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:54:44 PM

you know, i really really want to see a force user have a lightsaber battle without even touching their own lightsaber.

does any force user have the finesse and endurance to simply make their lightsaber do all the fighting from a distance? And i'm not talking about the basic "throw lightsaber and pull it back" boomerang trick.

You'd think after thousands of years somebody (possibly someone with a very frail physical body) would have mastered the telekinesis aspect of force powers to do things like that.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5582: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:56:58 PM

The final boss of KOTOR II did that. With three at once!

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#5583: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:01:56 PM

I once had a SHIT OC who had so many Lightsabers and so much Force potential, that he could form the Lightsabers in the shape of a very detailed dragon around himself.

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#5584: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:05:31 PM

@willy It's happened in KOTOR II. But it takes amazing concentration. It's hard enough doing a Force Push during a lightsaber battle.

[up] That sounds so anime.

edited 11th Jan '16 6:05:59 PM by MadSkillz

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#5585: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:10:36 PM

Indeed.

But yeah, we saw Darth Traya use three lightsabers at once while holding them up with the Force.

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#5586: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:16:26 PM

I accept it.

Darth Traya is just that awesome.

Also at that point she didn't have arms.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#5587: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:20:08 PM

No, she had one arm. I think it was just "Okay, the playing around stops now."

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#5588: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:24:22 PM

Initially, when she fights you she's holding a lightsaber.

She doesn't start levitating them until after you cut off her other hand.

After one of her hands got cut off at the beginning of the game.

edited 11th Jan '16 6:28:54 PM by unnoun

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#5589: Jan 12th 2016 at 7:15:05 AM

The Jedi put prosthetic makers' kids through college.

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#5590: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:16:59 AM

Probably more than just them:

  • The prosthetics makers
  • The bio-augmentation software
  • The synthetic flesh

I wouldn't be surprised if the Jedi Order was a major financial supporter of prosthetics research, and the constant demand for better prostheses drove R&D forward. I mean, in the old EU, Cay Qel-Droma was a Gadgeteer Genius who managed to basically stick a droid arm he found on a battlefield onto his stump and call it a day.

edited 12th Jan '16 8:18:07 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#5592: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:26:27 AM

That can't be very sanitary.

I hope there was plenty of bacta around.

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#5593: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:28:05 AM

[up]Kolto*.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#5594: Jan 12th 2016 at 8:35:21 AM

Oh right, bacta was discovered after the KOTOR era.

washington213 Since: Jan, 2013
#5595: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:22:52 AM

There should be a Hook style Star Wars villain who deals out his prosthetic hand for gadgets as needed.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5596: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:31:09 AM

Legends had Force Technopathy or Mechu-deru, but it was mostly used by Darksiders.

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#5597: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:36:00 AM

[up][up]See, you think Hook, my first thought was Doctor No

Or the bad guy from one Bruce Lee movie. Enter the Dragon?

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#5598: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:36:15 AM

Legends also has those awesome Force-sensitive robots.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5600: Jan 12th 2016 at 10:42:16 AM

They're actually robots with silicon-based, crystalline beings inside them!


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