Well it's not like Legends was any better about that.
I wouldn't be massively surprised if Rey end up being Luke's daughter, but I would be disappointed. Something annoying I've noticed is people insisting that all the characters need to have important lineage: Finn needs to be related to Lando or Mace, Rey needs to be Luke, or someone with the Force,'s daughter, the Pilot dude needs to be related to one of the pilots who's appeared, and such.
edited 3rd Jan '16 10:24:00 PM by PushoverMediaCritic
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Word of God says that the main Star Wars movies are about the Skywalker family saga.
Yes, Kylo Ren is Han and Leia's son, but there's got to be ONE next generation kid who isn't a Dark Side asshat that's part of the Skywalker family.
Rey, being the protagonist, as well as reasons previously listed, makes her a pretty likely choice.
edited 3rd Jan '16 10:28:26 PM by higherbrainpattern
The Heavy is a villain who pushes the plot along, versus just being an enemy to face at the end. For example, The Hobbit book is largely a collection of unrelated events as the characters travel knowing they have to eventually face Smaug, who is a supremely passive figure in the story. The Hobbit films promoted a minor (originally dead for years) character Azog into a threat actually chasing after the protagonists, as well as including references and appearances from Sauron so that the story feels more than a long series of unrelated events. In the Star Wars original trilogy Darth Vader was always the one pushing the plot along by chasing after the characters, his presence in the story and his actions define the danger the characters have to fight against, moreso than the actual Big Bad Palpatine. When random stormtroopers face off against the heroes you get the sense they are representing Vader and his goals.
Kylo Ren is obviously The Heavy in TFA, he is the dominant threat the main characters are aware of. General Hux also has little respect for Kylo, but feels more like Admiral Piett or Moff Jerjerrod, military types with a presence in the threat but with no direct input on the main character conflicts. When Hux orders the initial firing of the Starkiller Base, none of the protagonists are swearing revenge against him specifically. This is in contrast to Tarkin, whose death on the Death Star provides a better sense of closure to the film knowing Alderaan was avenged.
edited 3rd Jan '16 10:41:04 PM by KJMackley
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Yeah like the Dark Side users stirring up insurrection in the Republic.
A reversal of roles.
BTW, I like how the X-Wings have a turret in addition to their wing mounted weapons.
Very Ev E like indeed.
edited 3rd Jan '16 10:44:50 PM by Worlder
And, really, the reason we have to specify "main" Star Wars movies is because now there will be movies that aren't part of some big trilogy, starting with Rogue One. Which definitely doesn't have a Skywalker in it. So I think this new era of Star Wars actually changes the rules around — perhaps with the original six episodes, Star Wars was about the Skywalker family, specifically the redemption of Anakin Skywalker. But Anakin Skywalker has been redeemed now (and is dead). So that story is over. Perhaps it's time for a new story?
I mean, I'm betting Rey is a Skywalker, but I'm hoping she's a Kenobi.
The feeling I got from the film is deciding what Anakin Skywalker's legacy is. Or perhaps exploring what both of his personas' legacies are. There's his legacy as Anakin Skywalker and his legacy as Darth Vader.
edited 3rd Jan '16 11:17:32 PM by MadSkillz
Such a horrible legacy that Kylo will inflict upon the Skywalker's name. If Anakin still has the ability to see the future as a ghost, I wouldn't be surprised if he had begged Luke to start a family and have a child to prevent the Skywalker line to end with his lunatic grandson. The Sequel Trilogy still has theme relating to Anakin even though Anakin is dead: His legacy. While he is redeemed in the end, his legacy as Darth Vader still remains in the form of the First Order and obviously Kylo Ren. His legacy as a noble Jedi and pure-heart child is on the verge of being forgotten, especially with Luke still being the last Jedi around. In order for the Skywalker line to be on the side of the Light and not forever associated with the Dark Side, Luke cannot remain as the White Sheep Skywalker Jedi. Another Skywalker is needed to show that Luke's resolve to remain in the Light and not Face–Heel Turn is not a fluke.
There's a reason why Anakin died shortly after being redeemed. While he had turned good and is forgiven by his son, the rest of the galaxy would not be so forgiving. They would want Vader to stand on trial for the numerous of crimes he has committed and some folks would even go as far as trying to assassinate the former Sith Lord. Even the funeral of Anakin was held in private because Luke knows that if anyone else were to know about it, they would only come to cheer for Vader's demise and spat every curse and insult they could muster upon the burning armor. Kylo Ren would face the same problem, even moreso considering that he killed cinema-beloveded Han Solo (as well as massacring an entire village) for the sake of being evil.
edited 4th Jan '16 1:26:52 AM by Shadao
That's one of the many reasons why people believe Rey to be a Skywalker.
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And then another Skywalker turns in the next trilogy massacring all the Jedi again 'causing the good Skywalker grand-master at the time if it's probably best not to reproduce at all considering their relatives keep killing all their students.
edited 4th Jan '16 1:23:50 AM by MadSkillz
Kylo Ren's probably way past the point of complete redemption. But if he survives to end up in a completely humiliated state he might have a good-ish future as that depressed sometimes-creepy sometimes-cool hermit uncle who doesn't come to the big family gatherings but dishes out some words of wisdom to the rest of the Skywalker clan.
Well yes, there would be some heavy atonement to do. Say Rey converts Kylo in episode 8 via the power of friendship, womanly wisdom or a wall of light back to the light side. Kylo then kills Snoke in episode 9, foiling on the way a plan that would not only have eliminated a star system, but the whole galaxy. Luke then passes the torch to him, because there is more joy in the cinema about one murderous bastard becoming righteous then about 10 guys who never became murderous bastards to begin with. Rey and Finn become the seeds of a new jedi generation (that is concentrating on keeping her pregnant and knitting jumpers). Dozens of follow-up novels and at least one animated series deal with how Kylo keeps the peace and saves damsels from distress, despite his undeserved bad reputation.
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I think so too. You can't redeem people who don't want to be redeemed. I think it would be more interesting if they had Kylo Ren turn completely villainous and never turn back but surviving the trilogy as the later Big Bad and setting up his own academy of Dark Jedi to do his bidding as well as help unite and strengthen the rest of the Imperial Remnant.
Apparently the parts of the Empire that aren't part of the Republic have been Balkanized to a degree.
I don't think audience could forgive him. There's something unforgivable about an awful son killing his loving father because he wants to be more evil. And especially when that good dad is Han Solo, an extremely beloved character.
edited 4th Jan '16 1:45:59 AM by MadSkillz
