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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#626: Jun 14th 2021 at 3:44:40 AM

I am now finally finished with Chapter 4 due to a huge amount of faffing about. I was initially of the mind that Saint Dennis would be a less enjoyable part of the game because it was so far away from the Wild West motifs of the other areas but I was proven wrong since that's the point.

Some random observations:

  • Mary Linton and Arthur really don't do anything for me as a couple but I think that is the point. She's meant to be a deconstruction of a lot of romances and the fact they are kind of terrible for one another works well. I do wonder if Arthur was originally meant to have a better one with Abigail (which we know wouldn't work out) or Sadie. I also like that their problems are more "realistic" in the fact she uses him a lot and doesn't want a relationship despite it.
  • Angelo Bronte is really a character that didn't need to die. Dutch is using completely nonsensical "logic" to go after him. The local mobster humiliated him but now he figures if he kills the Don then the police, government, and mobsters will be LESS likely to be looking for them as they pull off a big bank job. However, Dutch's pride is wounded. I also think he may have a concussion, though I don't think he would act any differently.
    • Speaking of which, Dutch has completely forgotten the Blackwater Heist money and I wonder if that's because it's an Old Shame given his murder of a young woman there or he just loves being an outlaw too much to go after it. Or maybe it's just pure Greed driving him since all of their problems would be solved if they retrieved it.
  • Ironically, Dutch NOT killing people is also screwing him over. Slaughtering the Braitwaites, Angelo, and others certainly makes a lot of problems but leaving alive Leviticus Cornwall, Cohm O'Driscoll, and the Pinkerton agents trailing him is a mistake too. The big issue is not that killing them would ruin them—it's that Dutch would kill them and make damn sure everyone KNEW who killed them. As Game of Thrones said, "If you're a famous smuggler, you're doing it wrong." I choose to imagine the best thing Jack Marston ever had over his dad and Dutch would be that he gunned down Edgar Ross WITHOUT giving his name.
  • Its funny how free roam contrasts to regular. Saint Dennis is an awesome place to visit before Chapter 4 and you have no end of fun visiting the shops, barber locales, and more. Then when you visit in story, Arthur is like, "What a wretched hive that is close to Hell on Earth."
  • I saved Mark Johnson but it was funny that it was the 2nd hanging I'd attended with the first being the guy who I brought to have his arm amputated. He called to me to rescue him and I had no idea who he was until I checked it on the internet. Poor Arthur. No one he saves lives (Johnson is gunned down in Saint Dennis).

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 14th 2021 at 3:50:52 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#627: Jun 21st 2021 at 7:33:34 PM

Finally got the diagnosis.

I kind of wish that there was some truly evil options for Arthur at the end, though.

  • Killing the Dowdes for example.

  • Killing the Doctor who diagnosed you.

Maybe I'm just evil that way.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#628: Jun 23rd 2021 at 3:11:56 PM

This video shows a whole new way to travel: being flung across the map at high speeds. XD The best part is poor Arthur screaming in the background.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#629: Jun 23rd 2021 at 4:30:32 PM

Dutch: The only way we can get the cops off of us is to kill the richest man in America and aid in a civil insurrection!

Yep. Finally to Chapter 6.

I feel the dread leading up to Arthur's death and the Tribal "Plan"

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 23rd 2021 at 6:36:25 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#630: Jul 3rd 2021 at 6:32:28 PM

Finished.

Dutch's Moral Event Horizon is the realization the Blackwater Heist money was always in Dutch's hands. He never needed any of these heists. He just wanted to keep playing Robin Hood.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#631: Jul 3rd 2021 at 6:34:12 PM

Wait what? No I'm pretty sure Blackwater's money was actually lost. If you're talking about the epilogue, that's because Dutch went back after Arthur died and collected it.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#632: Jul 3rd 2021 at 6:53:58 PM

Abigail mentioned that Dutch had been keeping the money nearby the entire time. I assumed that was the Blackwater money and the entire thing was just him blowing smoke up everyone's ass.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
wassboss Since: Mar, 2019
#633: Jul 4th 2021 at 1:39:38 AM

Have you finished the epilogue as well? Because I was just typing out something and realized it would spoil the ending of that.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#634: Jul 4th 2021 at 9:23:25 AM

[up][up]Nah, that's the money from since the start of the game. Most of which will have been money you've donated. The money you collect during the last stage of the epilogue will be from the Blackwater Heist I think.

Edited by blkwhtrbbt on Jul 4th 2021 at 11:24:02 AM

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#635: Jul 4th 2021 at 10:16:40 AM

I am indeed done.

I just assumed it was the same money and Dutch was doing a fast one but I understand what you're saying. I am surprised that it didn't turn out that there was no money whatsoever from the Blackwater Heist and it was all a trick by Dutch trying to cover up how he fucked up.

:)

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#636: Jul 19th 2021 at 11:17:25 PM

And a few years too late, I have left Micah dead on a snowy mountaintop.

I feel sad that I couldn't pay off John's debt and buy the upgrades myself.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#637: Jul 23rd 2021 at 1:02:59 AM

http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2021/07/red-dead-redemption-2-review.html

My long-delayed review.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#638: Jul 10th 2022 at 9:35:11 PM

Rockstar will no longer be developing updates for Red Dead Online. Damn... didn't even last 4 years.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#639: Jul 10th 2022 at 10:39:52 PM

So does that mean we can finally get the zombies? tongue

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#640: Jan 11th 2023 at 9:25:36 AM

Does it matter if I play 2 without having played the first game? Like, are there big spoilers for the first game, or things that don't make sense without the context of having played it?

Vlad3163 Since: May, 2022
#641: Jan 11th 2023 at 9:48:19 AM

[up]It's actually a prequel, so no real spoilers.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#642: Jan 11th 2023 at 10:18:08 AM

Nothing outright doesn't make sense... but I do think the game is written with the first game already in mind and relies on *some* prior knowledge of where the story is going.

You'll understand fine. Just some beats might be strange because they're references to the original in some way.

In general, anyone who knows the original knows right from minute one that Dutch is going to go rather mad become the villain. A new player might feel somewhat blindsided by that development.

IvanovTroping97 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#643: Aug 7th 2023 at 7:46:53 AM

On the subject of the first Red Dead Redemption, Rockstar Games announced that it's coming out on the Nintendo Switch and PS4 on August 17, with both the base game and the Undead Nightmare expansion being included.

Disappointingly, there are no words on ports for the Xbox consoles (I'm guessing it's because RDR1 is already playable on Xbox One and Series consoles via backwards compatibility), the PS5 or PC for the time being. Also, the $50 price tag for this port is laughable, considering this game's 13 years old now. But hey, it could've been worse...

Edited by IvanovTroping97 on Aug 7th 2023 at 6:26:47 PM

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#644: Aug 7th 2023 at 8:37:33 AM

Bizarre, but it seems Rockstar sunk some money into it.

For those that don't know; RDR 1 is a nightmare mess of code and not particularly well crafted under the hood supposedly. Which would explain why such a successful game was never ever ported even when it's leaving money on the table; doing so would basically require rebuilding it from the ground up.

Which would then possibly explain why it's coming to Nintendo Switch and, of all things, Playstation 4.

IvanovTroping97 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#645: Aug 7th 2023 at 9:16:29 AM

Yeah, I understand that RDR1 had a pretty troubled development cycle.

Still, $50 seems too expensive for a port of a game from the Xbox 360/PS3 era without any substantial enhancements. A price tag of $20 or $30 would've been more acceptable, IMO.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#646: Aug 7th 2023 at 10:55:51 AM

Wait, it's not like a remaster or anything? Just... 2012 RDR?

Jeeze. Rockstar must be really burned by the GTA Remasters.

The $50 is probably because they had to extensively rebuild it internally. Doesn't make sense externally, but I can understand why they might have some costs to recoup.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#647: Aug 7th 2023 at 11:00:32 AM

Apparently the framerate is 30 fps across the board, with Switch handheld at 720p, Switch docked and base PS4 at 1080p, and 4K for PS4 Pro and PS5 BC.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
IvanovTroping97 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#648: Aug 7th 2023 at 11:24:04 AM

30 FPS on Switch is understandable, but not even hitting 60 FPS on PS4 is less so, especially on PS4 Pro. (Maybe Rockstar is afraid that the physics will go out of wack if the framerate exceeds 30 FPS?)

The lack of a proper PS5 version is just as puzzling, even moreso than the lack of next-gen upgrades for RDR2.

Edited by IvanovTroping97 on Aug 7th 2023 at 9:25:32 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#649: Aug 7th 2023 at 11:56:33 AM

imagine running red dead 2 on a switch

poor thing would probably overheat

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#650: Aug 7th 2023 at 12:18:37 PM

lol

A PS 4 game playing a decade old game and can't hit 60 FPS??? That smells of porting disaster to me.


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