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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#426: May 10th 2018 at 11:31:01 PM

All we got was the Star Wars and Pacman stuff with that.

Mileena Madness
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#427: May 11th 2018 at 12:06:56 PM

How does Can't Fight Fate play into Poccy?

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#428: May 11th 2018 at 12:07:26 PM

How does Can't Fight Fate play into Poccy?

ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#429: May 11th 2018 at 12:57:44 PM

The film mentions how Magneto having a family will end the same, that Jean is destined to hurt people as the Phoenix, and mutants will always be feared and hated.

edited 11th May '18 1:01:33 PM by ManOfSin

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#431: May 11th 2018 at 2:48:06 PM

[up][up] Then, it seems pointless to fight for mutant rights. :V

Mileena Madness
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#432: May 12th 2018 at 7:05:54 PM

Found this on Scans Daily. Posting it everywhere because it's truth.

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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#434: May 17th 2018 at 8:10:08 PM

[up]Ooh.

(Sharp inhale)

That's not a very good word to use, is it?

(That said, Bleeding Cool is not exactly the best resource, so...)

ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#435: May 18th 2018 at 3:20:37 AM

People don’t seem to known what grounded means.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#436: May 20th 2018 at 5:26:15 PM

I have to wonder if Sinister being a villain in the remaining Fox X-Men films will be a good thing... Considering how the last two main villains in Logan and Deadpool 2 kinda have the same thing going being evil scientists...

Mileena Madness
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#437: Aug 16th 2018 at 11:53:50 AM

...

Almost twenty years (I believe the movie came out in 2000) and it finally occurred to me to ask this:

Why didn't they just tell Magneto that his machine is more likely to kill people?

His plan hinged on turning the leaders of the world into Mutants (and thereby forcing them to rethink their thoughts on the matter for their own good if nothing else) so finding out he was just killing those highly influential men and women would have been a detriment to his plan.

Hell, if he'd known, he'd have likely tried to fix that issue instead of jumping into using it (though the timing of the summit made his rush understandable).

So yeah, just tell Magneto that it doesn't work.

...wait, now that I think about it, didn't they tell him that Senator Kelly was dead? You'd think he'd have pulled back after that. It's been a while since I watched the movie (good grief, that movie was so long ago), so maybe I'm forgetting some details.

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#438: Aug 16th 2018 at 12:01:34 PM

It's been a while for me as well, but I think he knew already and didn't care. He was also willing to sacrifice Rogue for his plan.

‘My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#439: Aug 16th 2018 at 12:09:17 PM

I think the problem is that no one told Bryan Singer that the plan wouldn't work. Seriously, even if everything had gone perfectly, you wouldn't have a room full of world leaders who were now mutants — you'd have a room full of world leaders who were no longer world leaders. Maybe you could take advantage of that global chaos in some way, but the movie never really acts like there's anything more to it than that.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#440: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:09:15 PM

Cyclops actually tells Magneto that his plan won't work because Senator Kelly died as a result of the machine. Magneto just cracks a mild smirk and answers something to the effect of "Did he now?". The implication being that Magneto either A) doesn't buy that Kelly is dead. B) Thinks Cyclops is bullshitting him.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#441: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:31:47 PM

Magneto is kind of a terrorist in the first movie. One who maybe just wants as many humans dead as possible.

Mileena Madness
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#442: Aug 16th 2018 at 10:01:17 PM

I think it's fair to say that the combination of Auschwitz and Gandalf make it seem like that character has more going on than the script actually gives him. Like, Magneto not believing that his machine is actually going to kill people doesn't even matter, because the script takes a detour to explain why this plan wouldn't work, but the big machine is such a comic-book element in a script that is otherwise trying to take itself seriously. It doesn't quite work.

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#443: Aug 16th 2018 at 10:12:31 PM

[up][up] Let's not forget that in the very next movie Magneto hijacked Stryker's plan and tried to kill billions of people so only mutants would survive. Calling him a terrorist at that point is a severe understatement.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#444: Oct 2nd 2018 at 2:45:51 PM

Man are we gonna miss this timeline or what?

Mileena Madness
ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#445: Oct 3rd 2018 at 1:02:34 PM

Apparently X-Men film producer Lauren Schuyler Donner owns the X-Men rights and Fox just distributes.

"By the mid-90s, after a deal with Columbia Pictures fell through, the rights were picked up by Lauren Schuler Donner (St. Elmo’s Fire, Pretty in Pink) following the successful animated spin-off of the comic series, who took the project to 20th Century Fox."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/5cfvp6/who_actually_owns_the_rights_to_marvels_characters/

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2017/02/the-true-story-behind-dougray-scott-playing-wolverine-in-x-men-and-why-hugh-jackman-took-over/

Edited by ManOfSin on Oct 3rd 2018 at 6:58:02 AM

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#446: Oct 3rd 2018 at 3:44:48 PM

Huh. Wonder if they will try and claim the rights for themselves to stop the merger. /s

Edited by Mizerous on Oct 3rd 2018 at 6:47:05 AM

Mileena Madness
ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#447: Oct 3rd 2018 at 3:47:32 PM

Funny that you mention that. Because Donner is happy with the merge and wants to work with Feige again.

“Sure, why not?” said Shuler Donner. “Look, it’s 18 months away, so who knows. For me, I think Bob Iger is one of the smartest men in the country. Alan Horn’s an old friend. Kevin Feige was my intern and assistant and then my associate producer on the first ‘X-Men.’ Kevin and I started the ‘X-Men’ together, so for me if we work with Kevin, I’m happy.”

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/912987-avengers-and-x-men-lauren-shuler-donner-happy-to-work-with-feige#ftQiZ6ZZ0loFTZF6.99

Edited by ManOfSin on Oct 3rd 2018 at 6:47:11 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#448: Oct 3rd 2018 at 4:21:46 PM

Of course, she does. Disney and the MCU make bank, even with characters no one would expect (Ant-Man and the Wasp). Meanwhile, the X-Men Cinematic Universe has kind of been stuck in a rut, with their only spin-off being the Wolverine movies, of which only 1 1/2 are good.

ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#449: Oct 3rd 2018 at 5:24:18 PM

Well, Deadpool technically counts as a spin-off.

Drakon69 The dragon archnerd from greece Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#450: Nov 18th 2018 at 12:56:24 PM

I am sure disney and the mcu will do better with the X-men

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