Lost In Space

June Lockhart outs Dr. Smith. Not that it wasn't obvious.

Thanks for starting a Lost in Space thread! Yeah, I know Smithie Boy was a prissy fellow.

Honestly, how could nobody have thought of it? ...Maybe just like how nobody suspected Paul Lynde back in the day.

(Could've sworn there was a thread for the Lost in Space reboot coming to Netflix, but this'll have to suffice.)

Hey, you know how Netflix is doing a Lost in Space reboot?

We got a trailer:

Takeoff commences on April 13th.

Bump.

Full trailer.

Robot sure got a facelift.

And one thing I’ve noticed is that the part of the original show people seem to remember the most (aside from Doctor Smith in general) is the last season with hopping between random planets where random and weird crap happens. It doesn’t seem to be remembered very well that both of the first two seasons involved being stranded on specific planets

It’ll be kind of interesting how many people get mad the show doesn’t seem to be doing that.

I heard that prissy fellow Smithie Boy- I MEAN Dr. Smith's gonna be Gender Flipped in the reboot and will be played by Parker Posey. Can't wait to see how the reboot turns out.

As long as the family is less boring than the movie version. William Hurt was so damn BORING in that.

People often justify the film as being an in-universe role for Joey, which explains why it sucked so bad. That is admittedly also my headcanon.

edited 16th Mar '18 4:38:51 AM by Beatman1

I've never seen the movie adaptation. However, one time, We got a LOT of VHS tapes from a neighbor who used to make and bring us over tamales and taquitos all the time, The VHS of the movie adaptation was among the stash of tapes which later all got thrown away.

edited 21st Mar '18 6:21:21 PM by EeveeGirlChey

Never really watched the original version because, well, it was already dated when I was a child, but I am a few episodes into the remake and...wow!

I finished watching the first season and I mostly liked it. Personally I preferred robot's original alien form over his human looking one,. I also didn't like Will Robinson very much, just thought he was whiny and overly gullible.

I don't think that he was whiny, he acted like a normal child. I only thought it odd that he didn't realize that the robot wouldn't obey him after what he did.

The alien form is most likely too expensive to have him around all the time.

edited 14th Apr '18 1:18:14 PM by Swanpride

The alien form is clearly all CGI. The humanoid form is a guy in a suit. There's some CGI involved, but it makes filming *way* easier and cheaper than a fully CGI character.

Okay, I am aware that the Smith character is this way because that is what Smith was like, more or less in the original series, but.. I cannot watch this, and it is largely because of Smith.

.. And also because the science is mostly really bloody terrible.

But mostly Smith. Because all her plans ought to end in her death, but she has battleship grade plot armor. Seriously, she does not even operate on self-interest. Being nakedly selfish would be a major step up, all her plans are just.. terrible, and any given one of them has a huge chance of getting her dead and it is not even a case of being fond of high risk high reward plays, because her plans have no upsides I can find 9 times out of ten.

I mean, take her betrayal of the mechanic. She in in a sheltered place, with a very helpful fellow survivor and a wounded one who will either get better or die. Neither of which will leave her worse of. Then she steals the flare gun and flees into a rock storm. That ought to have gotten her killed... but more basically, what is the imagined upside, for her? SERIOUSLY. How does getting away from those two help her any at all? She has zero survival skills of her own! Then she stumbles into the Robinsons by writer fiat. That is, however, not an outcome she could possibly have anticipated or planned for. The expected result of running into a storm like that is death.

Shes played by the best actor on the show, but this turd cannot be polished.

edited 15th Apr '18 11:24:28 PM by Izeinsummer

Eh, no, she wasn't in a sheltered place. They wouldn't have survived the storm in the cave, that was made clear. Meaning outrunning it was the one chance they had even if it was a off chance, and she knew that he wouldn't leave a hurt person behind, and he wouldn't give her his gun.

,, You cant outrun a storm on foot. Also, run *where*? She survived that by writer fiat.

If I had the choice between dying for sure and maybe finding help while trying to outrun a storm, I would go and outrun the storm.

.. And you would die. They had a lee to shelter in. There was nowhere obviously better to wait it out. If it was just that, I would chalk it off to the writers not having much sense about wilderness survival but all of her plans are like that.

Her betrayal of her sister? The colony is obviously in communication with earth, so the predictable outcome of that entire scheme is that the colony gets an email, and she gets thrown out an air-lock or whatever other frontier justice they care to enact. Except, Heaven loves her, so the entire ship gets miraculously punted out of the galaxy.

Stealing Smiths jacket? ... only the devils own luck that she did not walk into a family of seven wearing grandfathers jacket and get the shit kicked out of her. And so on.

Her plans are terrible and any one of them ought to get her dead.. She is not cunning, she just has plot armor. Plot armor is annoying enough when it is given to the heroes or to a cunning villain. Giving it to a stupid villain is just.. intolerable.

edited 16th Apr '18 2:35:51 AM by Izeinsummer

Yeah, fair point about the sister....I guess it is better to be in prison in a new world than living free on a dying planet, but they didn't make it particularly clear if the planet is dying and how fast it will happen.

It cant be. That is logically and economically impossible. This is a society capable of putting down long-term colonies on non-goldilocks planets - they explicitly made it clear that the alpha centauri colony is not an earth-like planet. That means they have the means to keep earth going come hell or high water. - or conversely, if they cannot keep earth viable, the colony is certainly also doomed, because surviving on earth is going to be easier than surviving on alien mars.

Well, depends on the sun, doesn't it? If alien Mars has a better environment than Earth provides than it does have a better surviving chance. Everyone in the show is pretty clear that the colony is the hope for an actual future, while the Earth is doomed. There is apparently a war going on on top of everything else.

edited 16th Apr '18 4:30:35 AM by Swanpride

Earth has billions of people and the attendant industrial infrastructure, and the ecology we evolved in. An alien world has.. well, rocks, and water. There is *no* way for the alien world to be easier to survive on. Heck, if it is a lifebearing world, that makes the problem more difficult, not less, because the local biochemistry is not going to be compatible.

I am not saying colonies are impossible - Given sufficiently deep mastery of closed cycle systems and bio-engineering, humans can likely live anyplace where there is rocks and water.

What I am saying is, if you can build a colony, and have a fair expectation of everyone on that colony not dying horrible deaths in the event the supply chain to earth gets cut, then I would also expect technological civilization on earth to stick around right through nuclear war, global warming and an asteroid strike happening all at the same time, because it means we have obtained the means to build societies that are enduring down a random mineshaft.

And conversely, if such minor inconveniences can doom earth, then the colony is just inherently doomed also. Heck, it is not even reliably sheltered from war - it would be triviality itself to send a nuke the same route the colonists are taking.

Or...and this will blow you away.

This might not be Hard Science Fiction.

I am going by what was established in the show and there it is suggested that the colonies are the best chance for having a great future, one which involves seeing the sun and breathing fresh air.

Btw, I don't think that Doctor Smith schemes are supposed to be particularly clever. She is supposed to be a good manipulator set on survival, not someone who thinks everything through to the last consequence. Because if she would do this, she wouldn't be a criminal in the first place.

edited 16th Apr '18 5:53:23 AM by Swanpride

So this happened... People are really into that alien robot in a certain way.

Think we should add something to the show's page that acknowledges it?

edited 2nd May '18 10:55:36 AM by NordRonnoc