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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#651: Apr 30th 2021 at 10:03:54 PM

Is there a way to work Gamera in there somehow?

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VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#652: Apr 30th 2021 at 10:07:18 PM

There are lots of ways, we have the Hollow Earth and its energy as an excuse for any Kaiju to eventually show up. Plus Gamera's done the concept of ancient civilizations before so they could have him be a dormant Alpha Guardian Titan that reawakens to combat a dormant threat

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#653: Apr 30th 2021 at 10:07:50 PM

Clearly they need to get the rights to Ultraman. This isnt a joke. Thatd be sick.

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#654: Apr 30th 2021 at 10:16:13 PM

Ultraman's gaining global traction once again and next up is a series that serves as a new version of Ultraman Tiga, which also dealt with ancient guardians and Kaiju awakening in the present after humans find the ancient temples they were hidden in, so there's a lot to do with that.

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#655: Apr 30th 2021 at 11:04:43 PM

Cthulhu is way too OP for the monsterverse, he'd have to be majorly toned down in order to be on par with the other monsters, to the point he'd practically be In Name Only. Considering that, I think they'd be better off with an original eldritch-inspired monster.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#656: Apr 30th 2021 at 11:07:38 PM

Besides, it's not like Cthulhu actually has any distinguishing abilities. He never demonstrated any actual powers in Lovecraft's original story. His mere existence was all that was needed to break people's sanity.

If Cthulhu showed up in the Monsterverse? People would just go "oh great, another one?"

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#657: May 1st 2021 at 5:23:08 AM

He was also temporarily taken out of commission just by being hit by a steam powered boat.

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#658: May 1st 2021 at 5:52:14 AM

Cthulhu is big, sleepy, and taken out by a boat.

Cthulhu is a manatee.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#659: May 1st 2021 at 7:14:57 AM

The thing with Cthulhu is you don’t kill him, you just set up circumstances so he can’t show up and bother you. That doesn’t make for a good kaiju movie. That makes for slower, abstract horror.

As for Ultraman, I’d like to see it. I imagine the goal is for Legendary to make movies out of every franchise Anno is giving the Shin treatment so eventually they’ll need to make a Kamen Rider movie too.

ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#660: May 1st 2021 at 7:14:52 PM

I think "Godzilla vs. Cthulhu" is a good idea. The only think he'd have to lose is the "if you look at him, you go crazy" thing, which is admittedly his most memorable trait besides his batshit appearance, but I'm sure even that could be worked around with some creativity.

Besides, Lovecraft was (for lack of a better word) a timid man. Cthulhu is a representation of the fear of the unknown, but the unknown isn't equally scary to everyone.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#661: May 1st 2021 at 7:26:31 PM

I mean, I feel like he'd play out very similarly to Monsterverse Ghidorah in that case.

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#662: May 1st 2021 at 7:47:40 PM

[up][up]Someone once remarked the difference between HP Lovecraft and Jack Kirby was that both realized how big the universe was. One was terrified beyond belief and the other thought it was completely awesome.

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#663: May 1st 2021 at 8:07:39 PM

"Fear of the unknown" isn't as potent of a source of horror these days. I think most people would be able to wrap their heads around "giant squid man" pretty easily.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#664: May 1st 2021 at 8:13:09 PM

Most people tend to assume that Cthullu and the other creatures from Lovecraft's stories gave off somekind of psychic energy (or other things generally along those lines) that caused you to go insane if you looked at it but that wasn't actually the case. Lovecraft legitimately believed that something could drive you crazy if it just looked weird enough.

[up] That's the reason why many modern Lovecraft stories tend to focus on the immediate danger rather than the existential horror, nobody is gonna give a damn about how small we are in the universe compared to the fact that an interstellar monster is killing people. It's also why I tend to get annoyed with some of the people who criticize the focus away from the existential horror, they seem to fail to realize that the unknown just isn't that scary to a modern audience.

Edited by Kaiseror on May 1st 2021 at 10:20:31 AM

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#665: May 1st 2021 at 8:20:06 PM

Clearly he was lying because people don't go crazy looking at me, tongue

Anyways, Eldritch Horrors aren't really that otherwordly/unfitting for Monsterverse ever since Ghidorah got in

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#666: May 1st 2021 at 9:29:44 PM

Lovecraft legitimately believed that something could drive you crazy if it just looked weird enough.

Well, in a way they could, maybe. If we're talking creatures that are from higher spatial dimensions, Alien Geometries to us. Either that, or it would just look weird but wouldn't break our brains because we literally can't even begin to understand what's actually happening, so we never reach the point where it would drive us insane. You Cannot Grasp the True Form giving humans a Disability Immunity, basically.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#667: May 1st 2021 at 11:17:25 PM

I mean, Lovecraft thought colors outside of the visible spectrum were madness inducing cosmic horror.

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ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#668: May 2nd 2021 at 12:30:26 AM

He thought the same about nonwhite people. (Although apparently he later recanted his racist views, saying something like "Better to have learned my lesson at this age than never at all.")

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#669: May 2nd 2021 at 3:15:31 AM

He was getting better, by some accounts, but died of horrible, painful stomach cancer before it could reflect in his works.

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#670: May 2nd 2021 at 12:18:11 PM

@M84: I mean, those colors becoming suddenly visible would definitely be insane. And the Colour's destruction was mostly caused for its corruption of the local ecosystem.

...its my favorite Lovecraft Story, sorry.

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#671: May 2nd 2021 at 12:49:00 PM

Well a thing from this sort of stuff also involved danger as well. Cthulhu came from under the sea but the prospect of cthonic monsters mating with humans and producing a horde of horrific crossbreeds to serve as an army is a terrifying prospect.

A color outside the visible spectrum isn't disturbing... at first. But what it does is the terrifying thing.

Ordinarily "The Rats in the Walls" wouldn't be terrifying, but the sheer depravity of what the protagonist's family in that did, plus his own emotional vulnerability, makes it more horrifying.

The Dunwich Horror's fear isn't in the beast itself, but the fact that people are being brutally murdered by something enormous that smashes through houses and can't be seen is also worse.

Plus, strange technology, things from beyond the stars or under the sea. This sort of thing was back like in the 20s and 30s where this sort of thing was terrifying. The thought that things under the seas and things from space that could be so absolutely horrific and wrong that human minds wouldn't be able to comprehend them was very horrifying to some people.

Plus yeah, the alien geometries that were often also associated with these other civilizations like the Mi-Go and the Star Spawn and the Old Ones and stuff.

ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#672: May 2nd 2021 at 2:49:13 PM

All this talk of colors outside the visible spectrum and horrors beneath the sea reminded me of this meme.

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#673: May 2nd 2021 at 11:55:00 PM

[up][up]Though Cthulhu wasn't involved with the fish fuckery. That was Dagon.

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#674: May 3rd 2021 at 4:08:52 PM

Didn't one guy get eaten by a monster nobody could see in the middle of a busy street?

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#675: May 3rd 2021 at 9:13:26 PM

Random thought: Imagine how absurd it'd be if the villain of the next stage of the Monsterverse was Red the fabled creepypasta villain. (a detailed breakdown if you'd rather watch a vid).

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