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Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#4001: Dec 8th 2019 at 8:27:56 PM

[up] The best teasers don't give away the whole plot. Just enough of the concept and general premise to sell the audience on.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#4002: Dec 8th 2019 at 8:34:47 PM

Not complaining about the lack of spoilers, but pairing that with A LOT of different action set pieces makes the movie feel more vapid like the Fast and the Furious films. The best teasers tend to focus on one or two distinctive events in the movie to build hype, rather than a music video montage of most of the film.

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#4003: Dec 9th 2019 at 11:01:00 PM

I am sort of confused why Maxwell Lord is in this movie but we'll see.

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#4004: Dec 9th 2019 at 11:13:02 PM

[up] It's 1984, the year where Big Brother watches over you, television show commercialism is at all time high with Transformers and G.I. Joe, everyone's worried about the Cold War going hot and Donald Trump was just a real-estate playboy mogul.

It's a perfect environment for a charming man who can mind control people to rise into power.

Edited by Shadao on Dec 9th 2019 at 11:14:09 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4005: Dec 9th 2019 at 11:15:13 PM

To think it's only 2 years away when untold numbers of children would wind up traumatized by the various gruesome deaths in the Transformers movie. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 9th 2019 at 11:15:37 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#4006: Dec 9th 2019 at 11:20:59 PM

[up] And all because Hasbro thought that The Transformers was just a toy commercial and not something inspiring for kids to look up to. Speaking of 80s reference, I'll have no doubt that Diana would love to borrow Doc Brown's Delorean Time Machine to rescue Steve Trevor from his death... if he hadn't appear a year early thanks to whatever Maxwell Lord did.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#4007: Dec 10th 2019 at 12:03:59 AM

Someone already pointed this out, but also: 1984 -> Nineteen Eighty-Four -> Big Brother -> Brother Eye. Which is probably why Maxwell Lord is involved, although he's also one of those "greed is good" '80s businessmen.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4008: Dec 10th 2019 at 9:57:09 AM

wheres the invisible Jet?

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#4010: Dec 10th 2019 at 10:16:43 AM

Are you kidding? It was in every shot!!

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#4011: Dec 10th 2019 at 10:46:55 AM

Pour one out for the Lego Movie's Invisible Jet.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#4012: Dec 10th 2019 at 12:13:39 PM

I am sort of confused why Maxwell Lord is in this movie but we'll see.

I think it's because this is an 80's movie and he's an extremely 80's character.

He was built to be the archetypical 80's sleazeball businessman with a dark secret, and that was the primary characterization the brought to the table for a long time. It was only in the lead-up to Wonder Woman killing him that he got changed to something different since in the 2000's his characterization ended up being dated, but even that was more of a generic "rich guy who hates metahumans."

So him showing up here allows them to composite his original characterization in a context that doesn't look dated.

There's probably also a degree of "he had an iconic moment with Wonder Woman, so we can rebrand him as a Wonder Woman villain" going on as well, in the same way Deathstroke sometimes falls into Green Arrow's rogues galleries or - more on the fan side - how people occasionally mistake Taskmaster for a Deadpool character.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 10th 2019 at 12:15:40 PM

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#4013: Dec 10th 2019 at 6:23:40 PM

Man, I miss Good Maxwell Lord from JLI before the retcon.

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#4014: Dec 18th 2019 at 5:08:33 AM

I thought Maxwell was a good guy until the retcon crisis. Not some greedy businessman. I wonder if they'll do the necksnap.

Edited by Ookamikun on Dec 18th 2019 at 9:08:56 PM

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Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#4015: Dec 18th 2019 at 9:02:56 AM

[up] It's possible that Wonder Woman just sends him to a high-security prison with a helmet that prevents him from mind-controlling people.

Edited by Shadao on Dec 18th 2019 at 9:03:12 AM

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#4016: Dec 18th 2019 at 9:55:03 AM

Remember "Twist Top Max" was ONLY because per Max's own words...while in the Lasso...the only way to free Superman was to kill him since his influence was so deep it would take forever to get rid of it and no matter where they put Max he would find a way out and just take control of Superman AGAIN.

So in that context killing Max was in that moment the best way to save Superman, since he was rampaging around AT THE TIME of neck snap.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#4017: Dec 18th 2019 at 10:14:28 AM

I find funny that snap was controversial moment in the comic while here superman did it first.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4018: Dec 18th 2019 at 10:15:38 AM

[up]That's obvious to anyone who read the story but the "Wonder Woman is a cold-blooded murderer" crowd cared more about her killing someone than why she did it.

It wasn't even the first time Diana had killed someone, just the first time she killed someone who looked human.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#4019: Dec 18th 2019 at 10:19:40 AM

Funnily enough, she also killed Medusa while on camera, but that time, it was awesome because Diana intentionally blinded herself with Medusa's snake venom so that Medusa couldn't force her to look at her face and turn her to stone. And then Diana — still blind — cut off her head. On live TV. (The bad guys wanted Medusa to turn everyone who was watching into stone, too.)

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4020: Dec 18th 2019 at 10:24:03 AM

Which comic was that?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#4021: Dec 18th 2019 at 10:28:08 AM

Wonder Woman #210. It was during Greg Rucka's first run. It was reprinted in the Eyes of the Gorgon trade paperback.

Edited by alliterator on Dec 18th 2019 at 10:28:55 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#4022: Dec 18th 2019 at 3:19:17 PM

I thought Maxwell was a good guy until the retcon crisis. Not some greedy businessman.

He was a good guy, but pre-retcon he was a sleazy Corrupt Corporate Executive on the side of the angels (which made him interesting, imo), whereas post-retcon he was just a regular Corrupt Corporate Executive villain.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#4023: Dec 18th 2019 at 7:29:42 PM

Seems that the former role has been since taken by Lex in the Rebirth comics and New DC Animated Universe.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#4024: Dec 18th 2019 at 8:46:39 PM

Lex in Rebirth is a combination between Corrupt Corporate Executive and Mad Scientist. More recently, he "died" and was reborn in a White Martian body, making him "Apex Lex."

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4025: Dec 18th 2019 at 8:54:34 PM

[up][up] Last I checked, Lex recently gave a bunch of super villains new powers to combat the heroes.


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