Wonder Woman Movie

I wonder how that will affect WB’s other December film, Dune. You can’t expect them to have Two of their big blockbuster films separated by One week.

Maybe they're counting on people really wanting to go back to theaters. Or not being able to see as much family.

So are cinemas actually open on December 25th in the US?

'Cause over here in England, everything closes on that day, including cinemas and public transport, and doesn't re-open again 'til Boxing Day (although the area I've been living in for the past 7 years doesn't have buses running 'til the 27th of December).

Yes, movies in the US are open on Christmas Day. A lot of other people have off from work, the whole family tends to be together, so for a lot of people it's popular.

Plus, not everyone in the US is Christian. While Christmas is pretty normalized as a holiday, depending on where you live there can be a sizeable Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, etc community and chances are they have a day off and probably aren't doing anything too special.

Also of note, restaurants are open on Christmas. Not every family wants to cook a Christmas dinner. Grocery stores like Shoprite are closed though.

They're really banking on the pandemic being over on Christmas huh.

It's only over when we get new management in the government.

Or they're banking on theaters being open (like they current are in NJ) and a lot of people not being able to visit family during the holidays.

> They're really banking on the pandemic being over on Christmas huh.

They counting on a Christmas miracle

Man, i would hope the pandemic would end by Christmas, but knowing 2020...

Here's something to keep the spirits up.

What does she see in him anyway?

The coat?

Also it's amazing how Brave and the Bold can fight Nazi stand ins without idiots bitching.

Probably because the Nazis were treated as typical Saturday morning cartoon villains without even a hint that the writers were doing an examination of a real life hateful ideology.

It helps that Von Grunther and her men are not wearing Swastikas on their uniforms, which would tip off censors that she's a genuine Nazi.

Opening scene of the movie has been released:

And to be fair for a while nazis were like that in fiction: a form of real life orcs or zombie that you can gun down cathartic without asking too much about it.

And even then, they tend to be as complex as your average saturday morning cartoon villain, honestly.

Box Office results.

And Wonder Woman 3 has been greenlit.

Saw it today. I did enjoy it mostly.

No real reaction to the Lynda Carter stinger. But the cinema only had about 20 people, and only a couple remained at the end.

My nitpick was that I think the two scenes at the climax with Maxwell Lord renouncing his wish, and the montage of other people doing it should have been reversed. The implication seems to be everyone did so. But that's kind of impossible, since I highly doubt everyone even knew they made a wish. I think the theme would have been preserved if people started recounting wishes, but Maxwell caused all the remaining ones he granted to be undone with his reversal.

Also I knew it wouldn't happen because I hadn't seen any news about it. But I totally thought Barbara was into Diana at the start of the film. I know given the scene with Maxwell soon after the intention of it was meant to be she wants to be Diana. But I firmly believe they could have made a few minor changes to Barbara's character arc and made Diana/Barbara a thing. Especially because Barbara's really start of darkness moment where she assaults the serial creep could have easily been the lowest moment of a heroes character arc.

For one it'd be neat bi representation. And I think it could also tie really really well into Diana's arc of letting go of Steve.

I thought I might be reading too much into Diana and Barbara’s interactions and then during the lunch date Barbara just kept dropping increasingly suggestive lines like Kristen Wiig was being paid an extra $50K for every shippy sentence.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 28th 2020 at 9:29:46 AM

It's Wonder Woman. Gay subtext is kind of expected at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if this was something both Gadot and Wiig worked on given the former has expressed support for Diana having a female love interest.

Given that Barbara goes evil, doing that would have some Unfortunate Implications.

The issues with Lord's character might've been circumvented if we got his backstory - or even at least hints of it - earlier than literally at the climax of the film.

That's ultimately yhe film's biggest flaw imo. I think it's fairly good overall, but there's not a lot of focus in favor of just having things happen, while not giving explanations or sometimes even clear character motivations until far too late in the film. As a result, it comes off as too random at times, with events seemingly happening only because the plot needs to once or twice, and I ended up asking "why is this character doing this / why is this happening / how did this happen" quite a bit.

That said, I've seen other superhero films with this problem (Iron Man 3, for example), this one is at least somewhat better than the others I can think of.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 28th 2020 at 10:48:35 AM

Yeah, the lunch meeting between Barbara and Diana is super-shippy.

I feel like Barbara's character kind of suffered because of the (good in itself) focus on Max.

Barbara as a sort of Loony Fan or Stalker with a Crush who wants to be (and be with?) Diana is a pretty different proposition/character from Barbara who is The Resenter due to always being on the wrong foot with Diana.

The movie goes with both takes at different points, and while it's plausible that the character could be both, I think the movie needed to do a better job of threading the needle between the two.

The backstory drop worked for me, because I thought the movie did a good job building up Max's desperate/warped need to impress his son and everyone else and the artificiality of his persona, including having Stagg insult him by calling him by his real surname.

Also, I'm trying to think how to best phrase this (I don't want to be offensive myself and I'm not sure if the movie is offensive), but although interracial couples obviously exist and not all Hispanics have dark skin, I feel like the movie used Max's son as a way of hinting at Max being "white passing".

Edited by Hodor2 on Dec 29th 2020 at 9:32:48 AM

I didn't have too big a reaction to the Lynda Carter cameo either, but then, that's probably because She already had a substantial role as the President over in CW's Supergirl a few series ago so the unique shine had worn off.

Edited by Zarius on Dec 29th 2020 at 7:52:16 AM

How would Cheetah even work again since it was just a wish power up.