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#1951: Nov 11th 2018 at 6:28:03 AM

I don’t thibk Galeem is too OP, I think circumstances that will surrounding him conveinently paint him as OP (killing Shin which kills Beerus, rewriting the rules of the universe, etc). Galeem won’t be faced until the final battle, just floating within its barrier. It’s the Master Hands and corrupted Pantheon that they have to be worried about.

Can everyone form a list of deities who can survive Galeem, including the ones I mentioned. I’m forming a list of them so we can finally decided the survivers who don’t have the dimension powers

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#1952: Nov 11th 2018 at 7:36:42 AM

Okay. Here's my list so far in regards to Galeem survivors. I'll only cover those who can move to different dimensions.

  • Phantom Thieves of Hearts (inc. Akechi) (Mementos) -They'll take who they can if they can make it. If they were at the cliff, then only some of them successfully do so. For extra drama, Ren isn't a survivor.
    • Whoever else has the Meta-Nav (most likely White Hats) -Same as above.
  • Clank (Chronoscepter) -Will take Ratchet.
  • Star Butterfly (Dimensional Scissors)
  • Dagda? (only rescue Nanashi) -He might actually prefer this new world, but would prefer Galeem be dead, too.
  • Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina (their own dimensions)
  • Yukari Yakumo (her portals) -Will probably only have enough time to take one with her lest she risk the lights following her through her portals and make her rescue op pointless. She'll probably take Reimu (and Yukari's own familiars/heralds, who would be by her side in this fight, making rescuing them easier).
  • Prismo? -Someone makes a wish to take them somewhere completely safe from Galeem's attack. Prismo himself likely won't make it.
  • Rodin? (Hell dimension)
  • The Flash (Speed Force) -unless his heroism undoes him like it does Sonic. Perhaps a teammate can convince him otherwise for the long run.
  • YHVH (Egoverse) -He might take his Angels.
  • The Outsider? -Will take Corvo (and Emily), maybe?
  • G-Man -Likely send Gordon Freeman and Adrian Shephard forward in time to the World of Light.
  • Discord (his Chaos dimension) -Maybe enough time to bring as many as he can if he either fears he can't take it on or is more concerned with his friends' safety. Maybe for extra drama, Discord himself doesn't make it, leaving it to a teleporter (such as Twilight, Celestia, Luna, or Starlight) to return them to the Pantheon, only to find the World of Light. If no teleporters make it, they're stranded until Discord is rescued.
  • The Author?
  • Cirilla? (she's jumped universe's) -She'll try to rescue Geralt (and Yennefer and Triss).
  • Master Xehanort, Vanitas, and Luxord (Corridors of Darkness) - But given how long it takes for it to disappear, unless he knows it ahead of time, they're screwed for once.
  • Chakravartin?
  • Fighter McWarrior? (his ignorance)
  • Castiel? ("Heaven") -He'll take Dean (and Sam).
  • Carmen Sandiego (if she's stolen a dimensional means of escape)
  • The Godmodder?
  • Saitama (nothing has EVER beaten or overwhelmed him before. You want Galeem to actually be the first?)

? Means I'M not entirely certain if they can make it.

I might update them with more entries.

Now I'm thinking the story should also have a despair-filled moment of a time-rewinder (such as "Dastan" or Max Caulfield) turning back time over and over as they try to reach someone who can rescue them or at least give them warning to hurry and bail.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 12th 2018 at 2:28:52 AM

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#1953: Nov 11th 2018 at 8:27:34 AM

I don't know if any Pokémon should be listed for now since there is a good chance of any Pokémon to be a Spirit.

Almost all of FF is safe Exdeath would just leave into The Void to avoid all of this. Shinryu would also just hide in Dimensional Rift, and feels like could be a secondary antagonist in this.

Even if she doesn't think of rewinding time this time, Mugen probably would have enough foresight to do something to counter Gallem after the blast by hiding in her own dimensions. I would also bring Sirius in with her.

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#1954: Nov 11th 2018 at 2:35:25 PM

Forgot to list Rick, Yen Sid, Bruno Bucciarati, Funny Valentine, and the Anti-Spiral

Prett sure the more heroic deities who can escape won’t survive for trying to save everyone. We should also guess many survivors who actually give a shit about the Pantheon

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#1955: Nov 11th 2018 at 5:22:36 PM

[up]Good thing I picked a couple of neutral ones, then. And don't kill off all the heroic ones; just most of them.

I agree with [down] [down]. If the Inklings can't make it their way, then neither should he. You saw the earth get crumbled when the light reached those squid kids.

Add the Doctor to the list, 'cause I'm sure the TARDIS would take her straight to the World of Light. Or whereelse/whenelse she might be needed.

I think SMT!Stephen would make it too. He can take himself (and maybe others) into the Diamond Realm.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 12th 2018 at 2:55:36 AM

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#1956: Nov 11th 2018 at 5:22:56 PM

Ignore this. Damn double post.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 11th 2018 at 9:23:29 PM

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#1957: Nov 11th 2018 at 6:10:46 PM

Would Bruno really be able to survive the beams with Sticky Fingers, though? I thought going into the ground wouldn't really help.

Here are some other survivors I can think of.

  • Oryx, the Tenno, Hermaeus Mora, and Hircine

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#1958: Nov 11th 2018 at 11:35:24 PM

Remember, Galeem nukes the universe and it is stated Oryx and the Tenno orbit around the Pantheon instead of residing in other dimensions

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#1959: Nov 12th 2018 at 1:40:37 AM

Oryx does have his ascendant realm/throne world to go back to, though. When dealing with the outside, he uses his Echos to act as projections to command his Taken army and overall act as an extension to his will.

The Tenno have the Void, although I concede that I don't think they have anything to allow them to get there fast enough unless if there are Tenno already there like if there are some busy dealing with a mission or something. In that event, there wouldn't be that much Tenno running around to help out after Galeem's attack.

Responding to your question here, the only instance where GER got beaten was by The World Over Heaven with its ability to overwrite reality. Galeem and TWOH are both universal so that's something to consider.

Oh, and if we're talking about the Flash we shouldn't forget Reverse Flash as well.

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#1960: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:48:44 AM

Thawne wouldn’t even show up during the initial attack, kinda gets disintegrated because he didn’t know

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#1961: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:06:48 AM

Why wouldn't he, though? Or is it just for plot contrivances?

[down]True.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 13th 2018 at 1:25:54 AM

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#1962: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:28:16 AM

The latter, can’t focus in everyone on this arc or else it would be a Mind Screw

Here’s what I got for plans of some of the survivors we’ll be focusing on. I’m sure there’s a lot more survivors (I wanna move on to discuss those who are rescued) but this is some of my ideas for what sone of the characters will do

Kirby [Obvious survivor, finds some friends and fights their way to Galeem until they meet other groups]

The Phantom Thieves [Only some of the members will be present, Ren, Ryuji, Futaba, and Haru are ideal. Morgana gets killed early on for drama. They sneak around Galeem’s universe with their thieving skills and try to find where is Galeem holding the Pantheon members at]

Yukari Yakumi [Present during the initial attack. Warps some of her friends away to protect them and stays within the base to hide it from Galeem’s army]

Bruno Bucciarati [Present during the initial attack. After losing Giorno, Bruno wants revenge against Galeem and scouts for survivors. He acts like the Fulton Recovery System in MGS where he transports new members of their group through zipper-portals]

Rodin [Returns from a job to find his bar is gone. Gets super pissed and beats the living crap out of Galeem’s forces and eventually meets with the survivors]

YHVH [Resides with his army at his Egoverse. He’s not involved with Galeem but is interested. The survivors negotiate with YHVH to gain His help latter in the story]

Discord [I don’t know, I feel like Discord should do something but I really don’t know]

Xehanort [Was busy scheming when Galeem attacked. I’m working on an Ansem and Xemnas profile in the mean time and if both were killed, Xehanort would be forced to ally with the survivors to make sure they’re back for KH III]

Yen Sid [Resides in his Mage Tower, disconnected from the Pantheon. His tower serves as the base of the survivors and has Yukari keep their dimension off Galeem’s radar.]

Saitama [The only one to survive the nuke as he was busy doing groceries when the attack hit. Now he’s naked, searching for civilization and one-shots those who come for him. Proves invaluable later opon to the survivors.]

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Nov 13th 2018 at 10:02:07 PM

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#1963: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:07:00 AM

CRAP! Ignore this!

I didn't realize I was adding posts instead of editing them! Damn me for just using the back button on a phone browser!

sad sadsadsad

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 13th 2018 at 11:28:42 PM

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#1964: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:10:13 AM

And this.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 13th 2018 at 11:26:04 PM

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#1965: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:23:18 AM

Ignore this too.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 13th 2018 at 11:25:45 PM

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#1966: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:25:18 AM

Actually, for the Phantoms, I was going to suggest a separate team consisting of Makoto, Chie, Akihiko, and Ryotaro (the rework for Shattered Illusion will have him become a Persona-user). Oh dunno. I just wanted a small theme team (cops theme). Don't know whether Adachi ends up with them or not. Probably not.

And that Ren not survive for extra drama. And since the Velvet Room has a door to the outside, I think Persona-changing will be impossible now unless one of the attendants was rescued, though I think it won't be Elizabeth, since she's still wandering around. Maybe Theo or Lavenza.

Huh. That might make Futaba the leader, then. Or even Ryuji, which would be hard since unlike Yosuke, he's never even been a second-in-command.

In fact, perhaps none of the Wild Cards should survive. But Maya Amano should. I think there was some prophecy somewhere (from Persona 2) that would mark the end if she ever bit the dust.

Wait... Galeem's attack would also hit The Great Seals! And likely Nyx and Erebus, too, so that probably equals things out.

I was also going to have a team of Rise and one other (a dimension-hopper), forcing the former to have to learn to fight (which she already has, but not on a regular basis).

And maybe Sans would foresee this but for whatever reason only gets Frisk, Papyrus, and Undyne to positions where they can (be forced to) escape with other dimension hoppers, but not himself or any of the others.

With his insane luck, I think Captain Tylor and the Soyokaze would somehow survive as well. Mainly by already retreating (for some reason) as soon as Galeem starts charging up, and then maybe stumbling into a wormhole or something because that would likely happen for him. He's NEVER lost a battle.

Either that or he lets himself and the ship get vaporized as he's surprisingly a fatalist... And then he's gonna be the first to get rescued by the survivors.

If you don't know what to do with Discord, just have him rescue his friends but be too late to rescue himself, leaving his rescuees stranded in his Chaos dimension until Discord is rescued later by the survivors.

And [tup] for Yen Sid and Yukari's collab. Personally, I would also think after rescuing Reimu, she would just leave her to do her thing (resolve this Incident) while she goes to act on the base plan.


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Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 14th 2018 at 12:28:10 AM

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#1967: Nov 13th 2018 at 11:28:10 AM

I guess on Shinryu, the idea for a subplot involving him is him trying to capture all the fighters with Spirits of FF characters on them and then try to make them fight each other in hopes that the conflict can make him stronger while banking on the possibility that Galeem isn't really that sentient so it keeps on providing more fighters for him to use.

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#1968: Nov 13th 2018 at 2:40:07 PM

I think the Phantom Thieves should be ths only Persona characters we should be focusing on. The cop teamup can be in another story but not now.

I don’t know what Shinryu would do, he would just... vanish as well I guess.

We should start discussing survivors who were rescued instead of using dimensions to survive. That sounds more interesting at the moment

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Nov 13th 2018 at 6:41:24 PM

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#1969: Nov 13th 2018 at 10:24:47 PM

Okay. Curious question, though. Why did you pick who you picked as the chosen survivors? I still think there would be more drama if Ren bites it, and maybe it should just be all the leadership who don't make it (besides Ren and Morgana, let's remove Makoto, too). But who should they end up rescuing?

[down]Okay. But really, Ren be the Sole Survivor? That feels way too far from what I was hoping for. Perhaps he should at least get to rescue at least some others. But who? Maybe a Sensor-type but not Futaba. Needing to work with someone else might make writing things a little interesting.

Who else? Let's have it either be Frisk or Papyrus (as a result of Sans, who himself doesn't make it as I posited in earlier posts). Or any other survivor. Personally, I'd have You Undyne be with another group as her passion would clash against the required sneakiness of Phantom Thieves.

Also, it's Yakumo.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 14th 2018 at 9:09:10 PM

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#1970: Nov 14th 2018 at 12:31:25 AM

I picked Ren to live because this would be there first Phantom Thieves story (why attempt make emotional attachment to Ren through his death, some of us haven’t played Persona 5 unlike us). The half of the team bites it, isn’t that enough drama?

I haven’t finalized the survivors, but I want Solomon from the Nasuverse to be with Yen Sid and has teleported some survivors away when Yukumo couldn’t. He’ll act as a support unit throughout and would be the one to rescue Madoka

[up] I accidentally said that Ren would be the Sole Survivor, I was going to say at least half of the Phantom Thieves will be decimated (Haru, Ryuji, Futaba will be along with Ren) and that they have to work with Akechi again

Should we even bring Undertale into this? I would imagine even Sans being disintegrated as well

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Nov 14th 2018 at 9:26:36 PM

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#1971: Nov 14th 2018 at 6:41:43 AM

[up]But why those four specifically? And we don't know if Q2 might reveal more stuff between them and Akechi, such as perhaps a promise to stop him when the time comes or something.

And I already said Sans won't survive even though he gets to somehow go back enough to ensure some of the others make it. He's a sort of fatalist like that. Perhaps just have Undyne as a "background fighter" among the survivors if Undertale won't be having a role.

[down]Under that same logic, Haru has gardening and perhaps dreams of her own store, Futaba has hacking (since she joins the White Hats)... Ooh, just Ren and Ryuji (and whoever they've rescued), to make it very dramatic! XD Devious!

Maybe Futaba can survive separately (for whatever reason) and take a few other White Hats with her (maybe even 9S [whom she's still mad at for Noodle Incident reasons] but not 2B for drama).

And Undertale need not take a big role.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 16th 2018 at 4:59:54 AM

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#1972: Nov 14th 2018 at 2:52:48 PM

I’d pick Ren, Haru, Ryuji, and Futaba because they don’t have any other thing to do besides Phantom Thief stuff (Makoto has school Ann has modeling, Yusuke has art) and also Morgana bites it early.

Okay, maybe some Undertale can be rescued. Still on the planning stage though

[up] I would imagine that the Phantom Thieves never should up to Galeem’s attack is because word is Akechi is going to Mementos and they went off with anybody who has time to spare. Haru’s gardening can wait, Futaba is a support unit and the Alliances can afford one missing member and Ryuji speaks for himself

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Nov 15th 2018 at 6:07:56 PM

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#1973: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:35:05 AM

[up]Actually, if the Phantoms were still participating, I would've had Futaba be separate from the rest because she would be combining her powers with Rise and Fuuka, who have done so once before during the events of Persona 4 Arena Ultimax. In doing that, they increase their communication range immensely so they can get in touch with not only their teams, but anybody else in reach, including non-Persona-users as shown by Persona 4: Dancing All Night.

She would certainly escape with them, and perhaps the rest of whatever Mission Control team members are with them.

And somehow, I don't believe the Phantoms are the type to chase down Akechi like that. And, umm… check out the mention of him on Sae Niijima's profile. And I'm sure she would tell her sister of that encounter.

[down]Yeah, that would work. But remember, the Mission Control survivors still need to hold out until they're found. Speaking of, who should it be, besides the Persona-users?

[down]But what would he be doing there? Given his current feelings about them, I would think he wouldn't want to provoke a confrontation with them so soon. Q2 might reveal some stuff.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 15th 2018 at 10:42:55 PM

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#1974: Nov 15th 2018 at 6:16:52 AM

I would imagine Solomon or Yen Sid’s magic increases her range, plus keeps it under Galeem’s radar. Plus, they’re going to Akechi to stop him from causing trouble in Mementos , which is totally what they would do.

[up]We all know Q2 will erase everyone’s memories and Akechi’s betrayal is a Foregone Conclusion, Akechi’s presence in Mementos is because he wants to make some of the more corrupt Pantheon politicians go insane, pkus it’s his first time in the Pantheon’s Mementos. Akechi would try to be discreet about this but the Phantom Thieves find out anyway. He’s in Mementos during when all Alliances are busy for a reason

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Nov 15th 2018 at 8:01:53 PM

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#1975: Nov 15th 2018 at 4:08:29 PM

Crap, I did it again! Please go to the next page for my answer.

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