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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#11501: Aug 22nd 2018 at 8:27:24 AM

[up]Amusingly, that line is uttered for 2 different reasons: in Legends, Motti was an unbeliever who thought he was mocking some random cyborg enforcer with a Laser Sword, with Vader disabusing him of his notions.

In the EU, that exchange takes a different tack-Motti believes in the Force and knows Vader is a Sith Lord, as well as what he is capable of. His comment takes on a religious dispute context, as Motti is a man of faith-specifically, a Force-worshipping religion unassociated with either the Sith or Jedi. His comment has a personally offended tone for what he perceives as Vader proselytizing his faith to the detriment of other views of the Force, while the Empire is ostensibly inclusionary (but in practice Atheist, officially denying the existence of the Force). This is framed as a nastily worded personal report from Motti to Tarkin in one of the new short stories, with Motti whining and complaining to the only person around capable of pulling rank on Vader.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 2:19:36 PM

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#11502: Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:39:11 AM

That.... that's stupid and unnecessarily complicated.

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#11503: Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:40:38 AM

[up]The same could be said of most of the short stories/excerpts in From A Certain Point Of View. tongue

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#11504: Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:58:28 AM

Nice to know that the new EU is just as dedicated to ridiculously overexplaining shit as the old one was, I guess.

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#11505: Aug 22nd 2018 at 11:05:03 AM

I mean, Vader’s retort wasn’t “my space religion is cooler than your space religion”, it was “chokemate, atheist”.

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#11506: Aug 22nd 2018 at 11:44:53 AM

His exact chuckling words were "I find your lack of faith disturbing"

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#11507: Aug 22nd 2018 at 11:48:46 AM

Why are the simpler explanations never used? “Oh great, Darth Flanders is here and I have to hear him prattle about the Force when discussing stuff. I’m gonna give him a piece of my ACH URK HUGH...”

“Well, that was stupid. I have seen the light and it hurts my trachea.”

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 2:51:13 PM

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#11508: Aug 22nd 2018 at 11:48:52 AM

Then he walked off muttering to himself. "Seriously, guys, we were common knowledge just twenty years ago. Do you know how many people knew about the Jedi Mind Trick during the Republic Era? Everyone. Literally everyone. There was one whole week where I couldn't go twenty minutes without someone bragging about how my powers wouldn't work on their strong will! I later found out that Ahsoka was making them come up to me and say that with the Mind Trick, but that's beside the point."

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#11509: Aug 22nd 2018 at 12:06:46 PM

God that's amazing

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#11510: Aug 22nd 2018 at 1:13:16 PM

Just going by the movies, the Star Wars galaxy doesn't seem to have any sort of mass media; I don't think we ever see anyone pick up a newspaper or turn on a television program. So the only way information travels is by word of mouth. That means there's no reliable source of information that can be distinguished from widespread rumors. So it's possible for everyone in the Galaxy to have heard of the Jedi Mind Trick, but for the skeptics in the population to dismiss that as an exaggerated story.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#11511: Aug 22nd 2018 at 1:29:53 PM

The movies don't show mainstream media because it's a waste of screentime. We've seen basic news broadcasts and the like in the cartoons. And even if we hadn't, we have seen the movies use instantaneous communication between distant parts of the galaxy.

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#11512: Aug 22nd 2018 at 2:30:35 PM

Yeah a glactic news source should be an obvious thing that exists and really wouldn't need to be shown in the films. That would be something a television series or video games would have time to use.

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#11513: Aug 22nd 2018 at 2:55:02 PM

The main news source in The Galaxy is the HoloNet, which by the time of the OT was devoted to churning out Sheevist propaganda 24/7.

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#11514: Aug 22nd 2018 at 3:58:15 PM

Just going by the movies, the Star Wars galaxy doesn't seem to have any sort of mass media; I don't think we ever see anyone pick up a newspaper or turn on a television program.
When Zam Wessel hides in the bar in Attack of the Clones, there are a bunch of TVs playing sports broadcasts (including podracing) along one of the walls.

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#11515: Aug 23rd 2018 at 2:07:19 AM

I mean, Vader’s retort wasn’t “my space religion is cooler than your space religion”, it was “chokemate, atheist”.

This. Is the best interpretation of that scene I've came across.

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Edited by dRoy on Aug 23rd 2018 at 6:09:47 PM

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#11516: Aug 23rd 2018 at 5:12:21 AM

In Rebels, there are several TV and radio channels including those dedicated to Imperial propaganda. They don't have digital download though.

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#11518: Aug 23rd 2018 at 12:55:43 PM

So apparently, photos from Episode XI's set have been leaked.

https://xanadus-kira.tumblr.com/post/177314429764/leaked-pics-part-1

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#11520: Aug 23rd 2018 at 3:10:03 PM

Because of the scenery?

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#11521: Aug 23rd 2018 at 3:15:20 PM

Yeah. Lots of grasslands, pack animals, things like that.

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#11522: Aug 23rd 2018 at 3:18:31 PM

Hmm...

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#11523: Aug 23rd 2018 at 3:48:52 PM

I thought Legends was supposed to be the one that over-explained things

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#11525: Aug 23rd 2018 at 5:49:11 PM

From what I heard I thought that the canonicity of the stories in From a Certain point of view should be treated on a broad strokes, case by case basis. "Some are. Some aren't. Some might be. Some might not be. Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."

Edited by RussellStar5641 on Aug 23rd 2018 at 8:52:48 AM

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