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LordofLore Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Jan 7th 2016 at 6:50:42 AM

Bilbringi? He knew what the New Republic was after and(correctly) guessed that one attack would be a feint and prepared his own trap at Bilbringi. The Empire then loses the battle due to things no one could predict and due to Thrawn being killed by his bodyguard(something he never thought would happen) leaving the Empire without a real tactician to get them out of this mess or turning the battle around.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
Jan 7th 2016 at 6:53:28 AM

I'll have to reread it but I remember clearly thinking that was an asspull even back when I did read it.

LordofLore Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Jan 7th 2016 at 6:59:25 AM

I think wookiepedia has a good summary of the battle if you don't have time for the book(or comic).

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
Jan 7th 2016 at 7:11:23 AM

There was a comic? I'll have to look that up.

LordofLore Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Jan 7th 2016 at 7:31:11 AM

Marvel has it on their digital comic store now if you can't find a physical ex. It's pretty great.

Jan 8th 2016 at 6:29:16 AM

The New Canon seems to be setting up for Thrawn or a Thrawn-like character to be responsible for preventing the Empire's defeat from being total in the years following Rot J. Both Aftermath and Lost Stars set the stage for a massive Imperial counteroffensive that doesn't seem connected to the rise of the First Order.

It could be this "Fleet Admiral" is still around during Sequel Trilogy era, and since Thrawn isn't human we don't need to worry about Benicio Del Toro being too young to play someone who was plausibly already in the Empire's upper leadership immediately following Rot J.

higherbrainpattern I am one with the Force and the Force is with me from Parts Unknown Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am one with the Force and the Force is with me
Jan 8th 2016 at 12:50:15 PM

Yeah, the Fleet Admiral in Aftermath that Admiral Rae Sloane directly reports seems to be pretty Thrawn-like.

Minutes away but miles apart.
Jan 8th 2016 at 4:07:16 PM

Bilbringi wasn't even a particularly difficult deduction.

"Well, my enemies have a record of doing crazy things on the assumption that nobody would expect them to do something that crazy. So maybe they'll use a tactic that they don't think I would expect."

If anything, a lot more villains should come to that conclusion.

edited 8th Jan '16 4:07:47 PM by Galadriel

Jan 8th 2016 at 5:53:22 PM

Did they expect him to expect the unexpected? Because he should've totally expected them to expect that he would expect the unexpected.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Boston from Boston
Jan 8th 2016 at 6:14:21 PM

I'd say something about the Spanish Inquisition, but that would be entirely too expected.

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AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
Jan 9th 2016 at 6:17:46 AM

"... therefore I cannot expect them to do what I expect, either!"

"Are you finished?"

"I'm just getting started! Where was I?"

I didn't write any of that.
Jan 11th 2016 at 4:23:06 PM

John Boyega interview we're he drops some hints about VIII, especially this:

Its great. Much darker, but were very excited

I suddenly got a bad feeling about how much of the main cast is going to die in the First Order offensive.

edited 11th Jan '16 4:27:27 PM by ManchuCandidate

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
Jan 11th 2016 at 5:14:55 PM

None just like in ESB.

Expect Act 2 Skywalker limb-chopping though.

edited 11th Jan '16 5:15:39 PM by MadSkillz

"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
Jan 12th 2016 at 7:23:28 PM

On Thrawn, bit late to the party, but I'm a bit torn. Not that I have much against Thrawn — I think there's a bit of overhype, both by fans and later official works, but that happens to a lot of good characters — but since we're in a new canon, I don't really want to just retread old ground or simply copy old stories or characters. Not to say I'd be against Thrawn turning up, but if he did, I'd want him to be a somewhat new take on the character — which can have its own pitfalls.

'Course, all this is a bit of a moot point, since I don't really think they'll do Thrawn, though maybe some Thrawn-inspired characters.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
Jan 12th 2016 at 7:51:50 PM

They're not likely to bring him directly back. Probably alter him. He's probably still from the Outer Rim, but doubtful he's a Chiss. And if he's not a Chiss, he's probably not Thrawn. I mean the name. As long as he's a sensible, artistically minded military genius, he'll still be the same guy even if they change things like that whole artwork psychology thing.

edited 12th Jan '16 7:53:17 PM by Journeyman

Jan 12th 2016 at 9:50:31 PM

Given that some elements of Knights Of The Old Republic are being re-canonized, who here's hoping we'll see lightsaber-proof vibroblades made from cortosis again?

Jan 13th 2016 at 6:57:18 AM

Del Toro dropped a few hints about Episode VIII.

He won't deny that he's playing a villain.

You know, I'm not supposed to say, but that's what's out there, so I'm not gonna try and fight it.

higherbrainpattern I am one with the Force and the Force is with me from Parts Unknown Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am one with the Force and the Force is with me
Jan 13th 2016 at 7:37:18 AM

[up][up] Do we even need cortosis vibroblades, though? We've got the electrostaff/batons wielded by the First Order.

Minutes away but miles apart.
Jan 13th 2016 at 8:17:30 AM

[up] What's wrong with cortosis-made weapons?

higherbrainpattern I am one with the Force and the Force is with me from Parts Unknown Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am one with the Force and the Force is with me
Jan 13th 2016 at 8:22:12 AM

I don't see why we need lightsaber-resistant vibroblades when we've already got electro-batons that fulfill the same function.

Minutes away but miles apart.
Jan 13th 2016 at 8:29:39 AM

Especially with the Fridge Logic of where everybody is getting this super-rare material.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
Jan 13th 2016 at 8:30:09 AM

I'm sure aristocratic types or fencing enthusiasts would prefer more elegant-looking and more maneuverable blades, rather than something that's basically an electrified club. Could you imagine a non-Force sensitive nobleman swinging that thing around like a barbarian? I didn't think so. There's room in a setting for more than one type of melee weapon. Don't be too limited.

There are other lightsaber resistant materials, phrik being one of them. The advantage to cortosis was that an exceptionally pure sample would short out the lightsaber blade.

edited 13th Jan '16 8:32:36 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Jan 13th 2016 at 9:16:28 AM

[up] I don't think it would be that difficult to design an electrified sword that's suitably elegant in appearance. What the Stormtrooper used was probably a mass-produced weapon and not literally the only way such weapons can possibly exist.

Having said that, I'm not actually opposed to fully recanonizing cortosis, I just don't think there's necessarily a cortosis-shaped hole in the New Canon that demands to be filled.

LordofLore Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Jan 13th 2016 at 9:35:56 AM

Vibroblades and Cortosis are already canon

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
Jan 13th 2016 at 9:39:27 AM

Well, there we go, case closed.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

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