Most/almost all of the claimants coming up from the border are non-Americans who fear deportation. I haven't heard of an American citizen/resident making a claim, other than the kids mentioned in the article.
And considering the countries where most of the successful applicants come from, most of them aren't border jumpers but people who went through normal channels (either application from abroad, or entered the country legally and made a claim).
I've heard that the acceptance rates for the border crossers are a bit lower, and that they've also taken a lot longer to process because the system wasn't up to the task. I'd expect more low admittance rates TBH.
edited 26th Nov '17 10:35:24 AM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
I read that point in the above article too. The point of my observation was that many more Americans (or would be Americans) don't feel comfortable even by the second generation.
Still, I haven't read the numbers for immigration, but I've heard plenty...
edited 26th Nov '17 10:40:00 AM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesI'm guessing they are minors who couldn't survive on their own if their families got deported, for the most part.
What I meant that adult Americans probably aren't making applications, and certainly not crossing the border illegally very often. They'd almost certainly be rejected, unless they had non-American family with them.
I haven't heard about any mass immigration to Canada due to Trump yet, but I do know that university applications here from the US are way up ("I'll just wait Trump out and get my Bachelor's in Canada.")
On another Canada note, a bunch of North Korean defectors have been having their applications rejected. The issue is that they first went to South Korea (where they get automatic citizenship, and SK isn't considered unsafe by Ottawa under most conditions) and lied about coming from China (some immigration fraudsters gave them bad advice).
Their claims are based on the fact that the South tends to treat Northerners like 2nd class citizens, they can't get good jobs and security forces always had an eye on them. While I sympathize with them, economic and relatively light social hardship doesn't meet the threshold for refugee as far as the government is concerned... Though maybe the ones with Canadian born children (who have citizenship) might get a compassionate allowance.
edited 26th Nov '17 10:52:02 AM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Oh, I don't expect mass migrations. (I know, because my primary combat strategy is Screw This, I'm Outta Here!, and I haven't moved).
He won't. Or rather, he can't (iirc, one of his advisors recommended that he could address the issue with very subtle language, and only on private meetings with the leader of the Army and with Aung San Suu Kyi; he was recommended to not say the very word 'Rohingya').
The Christian community is very small (Catholics and Baptists seem to be the more prominent groups within the minority), and the Catholic Bishop in the area is probably concerned with any possible repercutions, in case the Pope touches the wound a bit too much, so to speak.
edited 27th Nov '17 7:25:06 AM by Quag15
US pulls out of UN migrant and refugee pact
"Today, the US Mission to the United Nations informed the UN Secretary-General that the United States is ending its participation in the Global Compact on Migration," the Americans said in a statement.
In September 2016, the 193 members of the UN General Assembly unanimously adopted a non-binding political declaration, the New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants, pledging to uphold the rights of refugees, help them resettle and ensure they have access to education and jobs.
"The New York Declaration contains numerous provisions that are inconsistent with US immigration and refugee policies and the Trump Administration's immigration principles. As a result, President Trump determined that the United States would end its participation in the Compact process that aims to reach international consensus at the UN in 2018," the US statement said.
US Ambassador Nikki Haley said the country would continue its "generosity" in supporting migrants and refugees around the world, but that "our decisions on immigration policies must always be made by Americans and Americans alone."
"We will decide how best to control our borders and who will be allowed to enter our country. The global approach in the New York Declaration is simply not compatible with US sovereignty."
Under Trump and his "America First" policies, the United States has withdrawn from several global commitments made under the administration of president Barack Obama, including the Paris climate deal.
More recently, America pulled out of the Paris-based culture and education body, UNESCO, accusing it of "anti-Israel bias."
Haley Tweet
Reuters Graphics presents a look at life in the Rohingya refugee camps
.
Come and see.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotThe "four cuts"
, cutting off funding, food, intelligence, and popular support (recruits) from rebel groups and perceived enemies. This is going to get far worse.
edited 4th Dec '17 9:08:01 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleThe figures were obtained by the Die Linke political party, which is commonly referred to as the Left Party.
Some of the grounded flights belonged to Lufthansa and its subsidiary, Eurowings.
The decision not to carry a passenger, was ultimately down to the pilot on a "case by case decision", Lufthansa spokesman Michael Lamberty told the Westdeutsche Allegeimeine Zeitung newspaper which originally reported the story.
Libya: European governments complicit in horrific abuse of refugees and migrants
European governments are knowingly complicit in the torture and abuse of tens of thousands of refugees and migrants detained by Libyan immigration authorities in appalling conditions in Libya, said Amnesty International in a report published today, in the wake of global outrage over the sale of migrants in Libya.
‘Libya’s dark web of collusion’ details how European governments are actively supporting a sophisticated system of abuse and exploitation of refugees and migrants by the Libyan Coast Guard, detention authorities and smugglers in order to prevent people from crossing the Mediterranean.
https://ph.yahoo.com/news/zimbabwe-family-stuck-bangkok-airport-two-months-110127271.html
Story of a Zimbabwean family stuck in Thailand for more than two months.
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/rohingya-rebels-claim-ambush-myanmar-security-forces-042120413.html
Things are getting worse for the Rohingya (possible) since ARAS launched an attack against the so-called Burmese "terrorist" army.
Duterte has some "suggestions" for Suu Kyi for handling the Rohingya crisis and bashes the UN for its failures to stop wars/massacres.
This came after a resignation in the panel came on handling the issue there.
https://www.mmtimes.com/news/myanmars-place-cobra-gold-draws-ire.html
The Americans are urging to exclude the Tatmadaw (as observers) from the exercises.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20180213_04/
An interesting breakthrough as Myanmar announced the arrest of Buddhists and security forces personnel for massacring Rohingyas.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20180320_34/
The Tokyo District Court has rejected the appeal for four Syrians to stay in Japan under asylum due to fears of being killed in Damascus for being in anti-government protests.
The men came to Japan 6 years ago, saying they left Syria for fear of oppression, as they had taken part in pro-democracy activities.
They filed for refugee status in 2015 after they were granted only temporary stays for humanitarian reasons.
Presiding judge Toshiyuki Hayashi acknowledged on Tuesday that one of the plaintiffs had participated in anti-government rallies. But he turned down the plaintiff's request, saying there is no evidence of government oppression.
The judge also dismissed another plaintiff's request, and ruled against the other 2 because they left Japan in the middle of the trial. Their lawyer says they left Japan to live with their families in other countries.
One of the men, 34-year-old Joudi Youssef, said the ruling will strip all Syrians around the world of refugee status. He also said the court does not understand that the plaintiffs escaped from a country where many towns have been destroyed and even chemical weapons are being used. He added that he will appeal the ruling.
edited 20th Mar '18 7:36:27 PM by Ominae

Canada grants refugee status in about 60% of migrant cases
New figures released by the federal Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) show that of 1,572 claims heard so far, 941 have been granted.
The IRB has a backlog of 12,895 cases currently pending.
Canada has seen a spike recent months of migrants crossing illegally into the country via the US and making asylum claims.
The new figures look at claims received by the IRB from "irregular border crossers" between February and October of this year.
Those made by migrants from Syria, Eritrea, Yemen, Sudan, Djibouti and Turkey were the most likely to be accepted.
The IRB data confirms that Haitians are by far the biggest group of asylum seekers, filing 6,304 claims with the refugee board over that period.
However, of the small number of claims by Haitians processed so far, 298, only about 10% have been accepted. Failed claimants face removal to Haiti.
The IRB notes that the new figures represent a small sample - 1,572 of 14,467 total claims - and that "caution should be exercised in drawing conclusions regarding trends".
The Canadian Press reported that PM Justin Trudeau said on Thursday that Canada's refugee system is not meant for those merely seeking a better economic future but for those not being protected by their home country.
Many Haitians had been living in the US for years but chose to seek asylum in Canada due to fears of deportation.
The Trump administration hinted in May it would terminate a programme that gives over 50,000 Haitians in the US protection.
It was officially scrapped this week.
The programme grants temporary US visas to more than 435,000 people from 10 countries ravaged by natural disasters or war.
Canada is planning for another possible wave of migrants as a consequence of the policy change.
Canada completely lifted its own protected status for Haitians over a year ago.
In terms of numbers, Haitians migrants were followed by Nigerians, who have made 1,911 claims in Canada so far this year.
The other top countries in order are Turkey, Syria, Eritrea, Yemen, the US, Sudan, Djibouti, and Pakistan.
Canadian officials say US citizens included in the figures are mainly US-born children of migrants.
IRB spokesperson Anna Pape said that refugee claims made by Americans are "by and large dependents born in the USA and accompanying parents who are alleging persecution against a different country".
In total, 652 Americans have made refugee claims in Canada this year, including 366 who made claims at an official border crossing and those who came through illegally.
Between 2013 and 2016, the numbers ranged from 69 to 129.