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May 29th 2020 at 12:47:17 PM

[up] This seems to tie into to a broader problem with Useful Notes pages now. The original point was to have fun troping real historical events and people as if they were fictional. But when the decision was made to ban troping real life (which was on balance probably the right decision, given the existence of insanely bad taste pages like the "characters" page for Nazi Germany) Useful Notes lost its raison d'etre. There was lot of info in the trope examples that was interesting as an example of specific tropes but is unnecessary when the page is just a broad summary of events. Folding every example into a single description is going to result in a loot of weird tangents and irrelevant details getting brought if in the summary. but the broad question is, without the troping aspect, what are Useful Notes pages for? They're not exactly good sources for research, as the lack of citation requirements makes them significantly worse then wikipedia. Without tropes they seem to just be wikipedia pages but without citations and iht a slightly more informal tone.

LordGro from Germany
May 29th 2020 at 5:07:06 PM

The original point was to have fun troping real historical events and people as if they were fictional.

That was not the original point of the Useful Notes pages. Useful Notes were always meant to be

Articles that provide information about real-life topics that are frequently found in media. Intended for creators who want to learn about a topic in order to depict it accurately.

Quoted from What Goes Where on the Wiki. (That's why they are called Useful Notes in the first place.)

Let's just say and leave it at that.
May 30th 2020 at 3:32:48 PM

[up] Ok, but why would anyone use this site for that purpose? Because of the comparatively less stringent oversight and lack of citation requirements, these pages are less reliable than wikipedia, and I would hope any writer looking to do research on a topic would actually do research and read real sources, not a wiki that has no sources and can be edited by anyone. Having fun troping real life might not have been the original purpose, but it did retroactively give them a purpose. Now Tvtropes is a wiki about fictional tropes that also has a bunch of articles that are just less useful versions of Wikipedia articles.

Edited by TheMountainKing on May 30th 2020 at 6:33:03 AM

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May 30th 2020 at 7:25:53 PM

I mean, LordGro isn't wrong about what Useful Notes pages are for, regardless of if you disagree.

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