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sgtpendulum Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#26: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:37:05 PM

Okay, so I've been thinking over the idea for my character and I've decided that I'm going to play as Lamar Davis from Grand Theft Auto V as a leader of his gang Chamberlain Planet Gangster Families, or CPGF for short, hailing from the planet of Chamberlain #21.

he talks about how he gonna free his people from the oppressive grips of the Federation and return his gang to its former glory. While it's certainly true, for most of the gangs, the appearance of the Federation caused them to crumble, for CPGF, that's certainly not the case. Its poor state is caused more by its own self destructive leadership from both the lieutenants and Lamar himself and the losing war against a much more efficient, actually dangerous gang empire call the Ballas Galaxxxayyy(with the exact amount of x's and y's).

Regardless of the actual situation, Lamar is looking to make CPGF grow again by assisting the Alliance in their cause, mainly to get some money out of the activities(both from Alliance and his own dirty work, using Alliance's assets).

I'm not really sure how Lamar would react if a pony is leading the Alliance though. I think he would hop on the horse on the first chance he'll get.

Meanwhile, his friend, Franklin Clinton, got lucky when Frank meet up with Michael De Santa and not only successfully got out of the hood, he's doing extremely fine for himself in the criminal underworld as a bank robber, on-and-off assassin and occasional investor. While Lamar is happy for him for what he have done for Lamar, he also secretly harbors some internal jealousy towards him. Fortunately for Lamar, Frank gives him a bit of money, hoping that Lamar would use it to get out of the thug life. That sentiment died rather quickly but Frank can't leave his best friend hanging and figured that Lamar is doing better than before anyway.

edited 31st Jul '15 11:00:36 PM by sgtpendulum

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#27: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:59:39 PM

@Strat: Actually I did mention that Celestia would be anthropomorphic, meaning she's a humanoid pony, and in turn all Equstrians would be pony people.

Besides, I'm planning on going with Springtrap anyway.

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#28: Jul 31st 2015 at 11:01:15 PM

Bojack Horseman also has the added bonus of being a well-written character and not a show meant for children.

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#30: Jul 31st 2015 at 11:07:31 PM

I feel like if the Rebellion leader is to be charismatic, it should be Handsome Jack. I didn't play much of the Pre-Sequel, but it seems like something he'd be in charge of.

And if anyone asks (though I doubt they would), I don't have a lot of my own two cents to throw into anything huge. One-part still unsure if I'll actually join (or participate) and one-part that I'm not a huge fan of world building because I'm not that great at it.

But hey, if I ever stop being a lazy, I'll definitely join this one. Mmaybe.

Meanken Since: May, 2013
#31: Jul 31st 2015 at 11:10:51 PM

[up]I disagree with this. As a Borderlands fan, I would love to see Handsome Jack show up, but I think he'd be on the side of the Federation, supporting the fight against the "Bandit scum" AKA the Alliance by supplying the Federation with some fine Hyperion armaments.

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#32: Jul 31st 2015 at 11:19:13 PM

[up]I agree with that. Hell, he might be considered as the "Face" of the Federation due to to how Handsome he is! Though the Council most wisely wod do everything in their power to make sure he has nothing to do with politics due to him gaining a mile long murder streak since he got his face scarred by an ancient powerful artifact and being a massive douche on top of it.

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#33: Aug 1st 2015 at 1:29:49 AM

To add on to my Lagann planet idea, I sort of want to ask something that complements it a bit; could Spiral Energy possibly be a thing, if slightly re-worked?

For those who don't know, Spiral Energy is a latent power within the DNA of all naturally reproductive life-forms, and it manifests itself through the subject's belief, willpower and determination to live. Although Spiral Energy may have limitless potential in a grand number of fields, none is more so utilized than in the field of weaponry.

Harnessed from a user through the power of a conduit(often a Core Drill), Spiral Power can reach impossible feats. Should it be plugged within a form of machinery, said machinery will become powered by Spiral Energy, repairing, modifying and upgrading it through the expense of only the user's own inner strength. It also allows the spiral-powered machine to attach and combine itself to another machine, though at such a point more users and Core Drills may be required to operate and power the expanding machine. In the show, this can continually go on to make something as small as robot head into a giant battalion ark spaceship mecha the size of entire galaxies. This similarly effects individual weapons, though a single gun or sword can only go so far.

For this AU universe, it'd obviously be limited in it's uses.

1.) Anyone can utilize Spiral Energy, but a Core Drill is required for every user of it. Said users will be continually drained of energy the longer a Core Drill is utilized, and will drain even greater amounts of energy the larger a spiral-enhanced object becomes.

2.) It is greatly limited in how much it can expand something; obviously it wouldn't be able to increase something to the size of galaxies. I'd say that it could possibly by the rarest extent, at it's utmost limit, make something like a spaceship the span of a medium planet, like Earth, and that would only be after the combination of numerous smaller spaceships possibly staffed with 100-500 Core Drill users. Such a form would only be viable for a temporary amount of time before collapsing.

3.) The quantity of Core Drills may be limited, either in supply or by law, due to their overwhelming power and capability. The Federation may explicitly outlaw them from the use of all but only the highest trained officials. Even for non-military uses, as it would basically require someone to be used as a voluntary human battery. The Rebel Alliance would probably have less qualms for using them for offensive purposes, but it may be difficult for them to get their hands on some; Core Drills are practically a relic, rarely found on planets(with Teppelin being an exception, having numerous excavation sites containing them, but right under the Federation's supervision.). Even so, some may be wary of those that do utilize the power of the Core Drill, especially if they amass in number secretly...

...Course, that's just what I'm proposing.tongue

I understand if it's still too powerful, and I also understand if it's just too much of an element for this universe. Feel free to edit or limit it in any way, or scrap it if it just doesn't fit in with the universe in mind. In any case I'm eager to hear any sort of feedback or criticism.

edited 1st Aug '15 1:32:22 AM by lightdarkhero250

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#34: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:15:15 AM

I think I'm going to play Neo from The Matrix.

I'm definitely going to keep the powers he has inside the Matrix, only here he'll be tapping into something more like the Force. In terms of how powerful he is, I'll probably keep him to the abilities he demonstrates towards the end of the first film. He won't be seeing the world in green code or anything, but he will be skilled in martial arts and gunplay, dodge bullets, jump across rooftops, etc. I might also throw in the machine-disabling power he suddenly gains at the end of Reloaded, but on a much smaller scale (i.e., shorting out a door's electronic lock, as opposed to many giant search-and-destroy machines at once).

As for his backstory, he'd be with the Alliance by way of the human resistance against the Federation-affiliated machine government of his home planet. The machines would call the planet 01; the humans would call it Zion. The planet would be a lot like the virtual metropolis of the original movies, complete with Agents working alongside the Stormtroopers to enforce the government's will. However, I'm not sure if the machines would control humanity with a Matrix-like system, or if it would be through lots of drugs.

Either way, Neo's joining the resistance works pretty much like in the movies: Neo finds Trinity, Trinity leads Neo to Morpheus, Morpheus offers him the red pill and the blue pill, Neo takes the red pill, all that good stuff. The difference is that here, Neo isn't told he was freed to be the One. Instead, Morpheus starts sending him on off-world missions in order to foster a closer bond between the Alliance and the Zion Resistance...and a secret motive of seeing if Neo's powers with the Matrix/the Force/the whatever might actually be enough to make him into the One.

Just pretend I wrote something witty here, okay?
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#35: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:16:16 AM

Right, let me give my opinion on y'alls ideas.

@Meanken: dig the whole military family idea. It can be a planet, though I don't know if you'd want it to be a big planet. If it's a big planet, it might mean the Von Krone control an entire Stormstrooper Squadron (each planet has a 'squadron' made up of smaller 'squads'). I wonder if maybe the bad luck has spread to the planet, and as such there are murmurs of a coup d'etat. And in order to keep the Federation on their side and any chances of a coup d'etat dead on the ground, Hilde volunteers herself to service for the Federation? Maybe as a captain of her own ship?

@Chabal: uh, I mean, that depends. What 40k character do you have in mind? Also the mercenaries faction- or as I'll unofficially call them, 'the Han Solos'- is pretty much a given.

@lightdarkhero: it's not so much that mechs wouldn't work with the theme. It's that they would be rare things, like some kind of secret prototype weapon, and probably not the kind of common thing you'd need to do Kamina the mech way. I like the theme of colonization you got going on with Teppelin. I figure Federation-controlled planets would live on this spectrum where one end is 'sprawling metropolis' and the other is 'colonized wasteland' and you've managed to have both. Really nice, I'll probably have a lot of second-generation Teppelins around.

@wikkit: you know, having the Five being elected originally works best instead of whatever I had in mind. And I do like the idea of the leader of the rebellion being some kind of guy who seems to be giving it all for the Alliance, but if this thing went tits up he/she wouldn't lose anything. I know there's a female character from an anime or a movie I recently watched that fits that bill, just can't remember her... the Xenomorphs sound interesting, although I do have to ask two things: 1. how does the Federation help the Xenomorphs reproduce without basically making it seem like they're sending people off to the death row? 2. why does the Alliance want to drive out the Xenomorphs?

@Lemurian: a councillor having the Alliance knock knock knocking on his door would give plenty of reason for Federation ships to be sent after them, thus giving us plenty of opportunities for conflict. Me likey, but don't count Kaiser's position in the Council as reserved, I'd like everyone to at least get a chance to pitch in for who they think should be in the council.

@Truth Hurts: you can come up with original things.

@Hazzy Haz: as in, he works for the Federation?

@Udthe Imp: comments about ponies and not wanting to use Palpatine aside, there are a few problems. First, I don't think it's quite possible for someone to hide an entire collective of race's disdain for anyone else, especially someone who has a position on the Council and will be under the eye of the entire galaxy. Also, how did the Prophet get in the Council on the first place?

@Tenebrous Gaze: you basically gave me the foundation to make the Delta Squad of the Federation, except in this case their story doesn't end in one good game and they end up changing to the side of the Alliance— sorry, I just really like Republic Commando, and having an Alliance squad made up of ex-members of the Federation Elite Stormtrooper squads would be super cool.

@kage: you know, having Zebes being one of the first things the Federation and the Alliance truly battle over would be pretty cool, but they would have to get their hands on something big. Or maybe the Alliance introduces them to their smartest mind and they start building a superweapon?

@Echoing Silence: if you can find a way to work Terminators into this AU, sure?

@Tojin: a double agent, huh? Again, great way to establish a stealthy connection between the two factions that'll surely lead to them butting off.

@mrstack: I think that all seems fine, but you might have made Shantae too forcibly stuck to her home planet. This RP will involve quite a bit of planet hopping, you see, and her job as Guardian might get on the way.

@lightdark: hear me out for a moment. Okay, so, I said kage that the Zebes uniting with Tenebrous Gaze's Alliance squad of ex-Federation elite people could lead to a superweapon being born. What if that superweapon is based around tapping into the Spiral Energy? Trying to make it so people can use their Spiral Energy without a Core Drill, since Core Drills are like performance enhancing drugs? This weapon could boost someone's Spiral Energy and make them the weapon, or suck it out and give it to someone... the possibilities are endless, really.

@Nitrous: we all seem to be heading towards a path where Spiral Energy is this universe's version of the force, except people need Core Drills to tap into it and only those from naturally reproducing species have it (if I'm having it correctly). Neo could be an anomaly in that he can tap into his Spiral Energy without the need of the drill, for example.

To add in an idea of my own, I'm proposing the Joestar Trading Company. It's one of the oldest trading companies in the galaxy, and- like the name implies- it belongs to the Joestar family, who essentially are close buddies with both the Federation and the Alliance, always remaining neutral. Needless to say, to get a company like the JTC on your side would mean that your faction could reach whatever planet they wanted through the Joestar's extensive network of ships and hypertunnels...

edited 1st Aug '15 2:17:58 AM by Stratofarius

sgtpendulum Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#36: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:25:55 AM

Well, any thoughts on my idea so that I may change it accordingly?

edited 1st Aug '15 4:33:35 AM by sgtpendulum

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Meanken Since: May, 2013
#37: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:28:20 AM

[up][up]That works for me. She's a fairly benevolent ruler for the most part, although I'm thinking there'd be some kinda mandatory military service for all citizens or some such requirement. But this of course won't stop at least some of the citizens from being dissatisfied at their "cursed" rulers. Could be a number of issues stemming from it that all boil down to causing an economic slump. This, on top of the whole need to prove herself worthy of the name, would enable me to easily work with that idea.

edited 1st Aug '15 2:28:28 AM by Meanken

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#38: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:39:45 AM

@Strat: That gives me an idea. Maybe the Zion Resistance, in an effort to keep their Core Drills from being easily found, made theirs into sunglasses, and Neo doesn't initially realize that he can do all these things without his shades on. Then during a mission, he loses them, but he can still use Spiral Energy, and when he reports this back to Morpheus, we get into the "he is the One" business.

Just pretend I wrote something witty here, okay?
Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
#39: Aug 1st 2015 at 3:05:21 AM

Haven't decided yet, there are so many factions to choose from.

Does ST have widespread psychic ability, or are we just going with the Force as a generic equivalent to homeverse psychic ability?

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#40: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:39:46 AM

I'd be down with using Spiral Energy as a Force substitute, seeing as I have some magicians who'd otherwise be out of mana so to speak.

That'd also work well with the Langrisser and Alhazzard: having them be Spiral Energy battleships.

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#41: Aug 1st 2015 at 5:33:01 AM

Also, I like to add that the Ballas Galaxxxayyy empire is a legitimate gang, their business includes drug production and distribution, black weapons market, prostitution ring, so on and so forth. And they are a threat to both the Federation and the Alliance due to their Ballas4lyfe mentality and they're all spotting on purple.

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#42: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:23:32 AM

@Strat: That...actually sounds pretty great! When I was trying think up a way to incorporate Spiral Energy, I was never thinking it would figuratively be this universe's "Force". Making different device, or experimenting on ways for someone to unleash Spiral Energy directly would certainly be a superweapon that would give the Alliance an edge over the Federation's higher numbers.

Course, I'd imagine there'd be some downsides to utilizing Spiral Energy directly, especially upon one's own body. The show's one example of someone who's lived centuries as a Spiral Warrior—so long that he could his power without the use of a Core Drill— had undergone some interesting long-term side-effects. Since Spiral Energy is deeply connected to DNA, artificial usage of it might cause some major problems for some species. And if there was a device that could actually drain the Spiral Energy of someone, to put into a weapon or boost someone else's supply? If it drained someone completely, it might result in death, or make them a "husk" of what they once were.

So yeah, if the Alliance got some minds together, especially this universe's version of Zebesan Space Pirates, they would definitely develop something extensively powerful, but also very dangerous and easy to abuse. Great for a faction focusing on the short-term rather than the long-term.

Since the Joestar Trading Company is a thing, would the Speedwagon Foundation be an affiliate?tongue given their propensity for studying and investigating bizarre happenings and anomalies, they might research beneficial, commercial ways of using Spiral Energy, not confined to the realm of war. This could also serve as a way to give the Federation their own way of utilizing Spiral Energy in a safer, more stable and controlled manner!

@sgtpendulum: All I can say is that Space GTA sounds cool to me.tongue Can't be of much help besides that though...I still need to finish GTA 5. Which...I should probably on to doing. Someday.tongue

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#44: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:52:26 AM

I mean, it depends on which Handsome Jack you use. Borderlands 2 Jack and Pre-Sequel Jack are two very different people (as far as I know).

My interest in this is starting to wane, honestly. I guess I'm not cut out for this, since people are writing multiple paragraphs about what to include and how and I'm over here just with my two-sentences "hey this seems cool". Plus, it'd probably be better to not be too involved since I have a bad record of not doing anything.

But hey, I'll keep my eye on this, because it's still pretty neat.

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#45: Aug 1st 2015 at 9:09:33 AM

[up][up]Ease up on the stereotypical gangsta trappings, and we could have a truly viable criminal faction here!

@Strat: The BS in-universe answer: The Covenant was a truly massive militaristic religious faction who's sheer numbers and firepower might be a problem for the Federation, and considering the growing Alliance the Council did not wish to deal with a two front war, thus they decided to induct one of the Head Prophets into the Council the next time one of them retired to represent the religious aspects of the Federation.

Actual answer: Wanted the Council members to be made up of a 3-2 split between decent people and douche bags from all different forms of media, and the Prophet of Truth was the first thought I had for the second douche along with Palpatine who represent videogames as a medium.

Basically, the make-up of the councils members would be as follows:

edited 1st Aug '15 9:09:43 AM by UdtheImp

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#46: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:00:13 AM

Idea...

Strat, what would you say happens if spiral energy meets combustionbending?

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#47: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:18:11 AM

@sgtpendulum: I feel like you just took Lamar's backstory and changed a few words. It doesn't feel like it's a really 'adapted' AU- I mean, I feel like in space, Michael would be something more than just an ex-bank robber, for example. Although a gang in space seems like a really cool concept.

@Meanken: lesser things have spurred bigger revolutions in the past. Perhaps the Stormtrooper Squadron is extremely loyal to the family, but the population are growing restless and as such a conflict might be in the horizon?

@Nitrous Thunder: that sounds pretty damn good.

@Chabal: ST?

@lightdarkhero: by making Spiral Energy this verse's Force, we have three major distinctions

  • 1. The Force is available to most, not just those with midichlorians.
  • 2. Tapping into it is a matter of having the right tools...
  • 3. ... but the right tools have been forbidden by the Federation.
This all builds up to Spiral Energy being like performance enhancing drugs. We all know our body has chemicals that can be used to enhance certain things, but doing that is considered illegal and actually quite dangerous to the body. Yeah, perhaps we can make it so an inexperienced person trying to use Spiral Energy could have horrible consequences, like maybe their arm can just go kaploot with all that energy. Also, you bet your bet the Speedwagon Foundation is a thing.

@Chabal: I'd say bending could be a way to use your Spiral Energy- maybe without a weapon to channel it through, which is why an even smaller parcel of the population can do it and it often kills those who aren't ready to truly train it- and combustionbending is like... having fire on your veins and being able to direct it out of your body.

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#48: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:28:08 AM

ST as in Star Trek, but it's been answered.

I was thinking more in the sense of powered by enthusiasm. As in, the more cheerful and motivated the user, the bigger and explodier headlasers that result. So a character who starts out as reserved slowly becomes a jovial self-propelled superlaser artillery.

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#49: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:29:40 AM

Uuuuh yeah. That sounds good.

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#50: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:57:08 AM

[up]The Spiral Energy could also be tied to emotion and belief. The more positive emotions one has and the stronger one's belief in how they use the Spiral Energy is what allows them to use it without side effects for longer periods of time and/or not suffer through burnout. Certain races in fact are able to handle the Spiral Energy more effectively than others, with humans used as the major measuring point. Plus anomalies could occur in the form of robots and/or droids having a 50/50 chance of harnessing Spiral Energy like organics do instead of just having it as some type of power source but without any of the side effects depending if their programming is sapient enough.

........maybe we can introduce Valkyria into the mix as a race that evolved to naturally channel Spiral Energy with no side effects......?

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