So we have one thread for discussing terrorists of various stripes
and another on the ethics of law enforcement
. So why not cover crimes that are less specific? Like what an (failed) bank robbery that recently occurred or that recent manhunt in New York?
It probably goes without saying, but anything advocating crimes will get thumped, and "how to" posts suggesting how criminals could be smarter run the same risk.
Edited by Mrph1 on Oct 29th 2024 at 12:54:10 PM
Meet Jasveen Sangha, the 'Ketamine Queen' accused of supplying Matthew Perry with ketamine
So some news from Variety. Roberto Orci (one of the screenwriters from the Abrams Star Trek films) has been accused of sexual and physical assault against his wife.
Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Aug 27th 2024 at 8:27:51 AM
You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.So I've been wondering about this for a strange amount of time, and I know this question is going to make me look suspicious as hell, but how exactly do assassins/hitmen advertise their services without getting law enforcement on their case?
Mob bosses and other crooked people in power do business with these guys whenever they want jobs done, but how do these business exchanges even start?
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"I suspect that these services are not publicly accessible.
Apparently, websites and forums that sell child pornography and organize sex crimes (that's apparently a thing...) sometimes demand that you show them child pornography as proof that you aren't a cop. People running such businesses aren't all stupid, alas.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanYeah hiring an assassin wouldn't be publicly available for obvious reasons so that's why I'm asking how these types of business exchanges are done typically because it has to be done without law enforcement knowing about it.
Somehow an assassin has to be good at what they do, and somehow advertise their services to any rich clients without bringing heat on themselves.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 28th 2024 at 5:21:39 PM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"As far as I understand, most criminal organizations do assassination in-house (With their own enforcers, or closely associated gangs. For instance, Murder, Inc. was a suborganization within the greater national crime syndicate in the 30s which functioned as an enforcement wing for most of the members of the greater syndicate.) It's pretty rare as I understand it that a non-career-criminal will be using the same assassins as criminals, in the event they successfully hire one. Generally they contact someone they know personally, like a friend, employee, or tenant who needs money, or offer to split an insurance payout if it's an insurance fraud murder, and then it's a one-and-done thing, most of these hitmen don't kill often, they just do it to get the one payout because they're in need of money.
Actual professional assassins who work for a wide variety of clients seem to be very rare to nonexistent, for various reasons, foremost among them the problem of advertising as you bring up (after all, it's a lot more legal and safe to scam people looking to hire a hitman, and any given place a customer looks for one is likely as not to be a police front, so you'd need to figure out a way to prove you're legitimate, and the client has to prove the same, and it's a whole mess) but a close secondary problem is that if you're a high-profile killer, about the only way you stay out of prison for very long is if you're attached to a gang and primarily killing people that the police are less likely to care about (mostly other gang members).
As a result, most professional assassins who work for multiple clients either get arrested after only a few, usually after helping pick the targets initially in insurance schemes, or are enforcers who defect between criminal organizations for whatever reason. The few times a non-criminal-owned company has been suspected of doing it, as far as I'm aware, it tends to be someone in-house too, though hired in a way closer to how normal civilians hire them, that is, finding a capable-of-murder employee in bad financial straits and offering to give them a lot of money if they kill someone. They usually don't do this at all though because companies that get caught doing this don't tend to last much longer afterwards. There's been a few exceptions to this rule that successful independent contract killers don't exist, but they tend to be from poor regions, grow up surrounded by criminal organizations and the businesses associated with them, and kind of hover around them while working with them frequently, and thus have a measure of protection. People know them and know what they do in the neighborhood, generally.
Edited by Florien on Aug 28th 2024 at 3:30:08 AM
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I believe the only way to make contact with these types of individuals is either via the Dark Web / Deep Web, if you know someone associated with the criminal underworld or the rather helpful post just
there.
Cross Posted from the Law Enforcement Thread.
The arrested suspect Marcelo Adelino de Moura, known as China, was arrested by the Special Operations Command from the Military Police Shock Battalion. After the arrest the Civil Police intelligence sector confirms with the Military Police that China was being monitored over a plot to assassinate Captain Derrite.
A MAG/M240 belt fed machine-gun and an HK 33 (miss id'ed as an HK 47 - 762) was apprehended with belts of ammo, along body armor, ballistic helmets, .50 BMG ammo and 9mm ammo.
The investigation pointed China as the hitman assigned with shooting Derrite, this comes after his command in the São Paulo Military Police increased operations against drug trafficking and smuggling in the State of São Paulo, resulting in billions in losses for the PCC.
Had the hit gone through, this would be the major attack against a high profile state official.
Link in Portuguese.
Inter arma enim silent leges51 men aged 26 to 74 are on trial in France for raping a woman. Her husband contacted them through an old chatroom site, drugged her so she'd be in deep sleep, had them rape her and filmed them. He had up to 80 men come to do that, 30+ couldn't be identified.
Edited by Iridener on Sep 5th 2024 at 12:02:23 PM
It has to be read to be believed: Indeed, "Without her knowing" was the name given to the chat room on the Coco.fr dating website, where the man in his 70s would recruit these men. "You're like me, you like rape mode," wrote Dominique P. to a man, after they made contact on the chatroom, which was closed in June for having been implicated in several criminal cases.
Why do people do such things...
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThat article and another one on the site also reveal that this isn't the only sexual crime this asshole has committed (or been accused of committing).
Heck, the reason the police found out about this was because he had been caught taking upskirt photos of women.
Edited by M84 on Sep 4th 2024 at 7:23:08 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedI am going to get a thump if I say what I want to say about these kinds of people.
But working in the Penal Police, I have to take care of a bunch of convicts that are on that level or done something similar. One that raped his mother-in-law and then decapitated her.
Some of them have extensive files and since we get to check for what they were brought in, having to hold back the urge to make their sentences a living hell is routine.
I really can't get around that there is something deeply wrong with these people and from experience in both as a Patrol LEO and Prisional LEO that these people will do it a gain as soon as they get out of jail.
Inter arma enim silent legesOver thirty of the rapists couldn’t be identified unfortunately. So they at least are probably going to escape justice.
I do think the husband at least is going to be found guilty. There is just so much evidence against him. Not to mention he was only caught because he was committing ANOTHER sex crime.
Edited by M84 on Sep 4th 2024 at 10:45:13 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised"Up to 20 years" sounds like that's the maximum possible sentence, for the worst possible case of rape imaginable. If it's not the worst case imaginable, or if there are mitigating factors, the sentence will presumably be less than that. At least that's how it works in Switzerland (although with a maximum of 10 years)
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanUsually most legislatures have a "discount" for first time offenders, having a good criminal record or the degree of participation in the crime.
Probably most guys who partook on the rape will get relatively light sentences, but the husband and anyone who was charged and convicted of sexual offenses probably wont.
Inter arma enim silent legesAllegedly this guy had some kind of fetish about the whole thing, he didn't ask for money or anything. Also now people wonder why doctors didn't notice anything - the lady was experiencing memory loss and went to neurologists and gynecologists.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

IIRC, the missing French woman's family says that the local police are not taking it seriously. From what I've seen in European news that covered it, they even reached out to Macron about it and urged him to allocate resources for the search.
They also mention that whatever evidence the police found in Nikko was not complete and supposedly contradicts with what the family knows at the time in 2018.
Xavier Niel of Free helped the family find the woman's family by tech means and concluded that her phone was disabled forcefully (batter taken out/suspect destroyed it).