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But doesn't self-defense (which was the Court's stance) rule out the whole wrongful part?
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A procrastination in of itself
The courts ruling only applied to what he was charged with, he wasn’t charged with Wrongful Death (I don’t think you can be criminally charged with it), so the ruling about his Homicide charges are irrelevant.
It’s the same way that being found not guilty of a reckless driving in relation to an accident doesn’t mean the insurance company of a driver you hit can’t sue.
The two acts are different from each other (though similar in nature) so you can do one without doing the other.
Edited by Silasw on Feb 2nd 2023 at 11:32:47 AM
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Criminal court is "beyond a shadow of a doubt". Civil court is "on the balance of evidence". The most civil court can levy is financial penalties and if you get that wrong and find out later, it's much easier to fix than if you sentence someone to death or life imprisonment and discover they're innocent later.
Not Three Laws compliant.
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
A bunch of robberies are in the news in Tokyo. Some of them did have people killed (the victims of the robberies). Bureau of Immigration got the mastermind who dubbed himself "Luffy". NPA's getting him extradited before he can try to bribe BI officers to get him released.
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Oh, bother.
So the Cookie Monster is scaring people in Santa Cruz. Okay, it's a man dressed as the Cookie Monster scaring people in Santa Cruz.
The Santa Cruz police department noted that he's not committing any actual crimes yet, but are still warning people to keep their distance.
On a side note, his name is Adam Sandler. No, not that Adam Sandler.
Edit:
On another side note, a decade ago this guy was dressed up as Elmo and terrorizing San Francisco.
Edited by M84 on Feb 24th 2023 at 12:11:08 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised
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Terrorising how? Some more context, please.
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Oh, bother.
Okay "terrorizing" was too strong a word. He was basically just wandering around Fisherman's Wharf and getting into conflicts with the small business owners there. This eventually led to his arrest and ban there.
He did similar stuff in L.A., getting into more arguments with small business owners along with the occasional death threat.
Kron News: San Francisco’s ‘Evil Elmo’ is back, this time as Cookie Monster in Santa Cruz
Edited by M84 on Feb 24th 2023 at 3:59:12 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised
Foreign Troper
This guy is a good 6 years too late for Monster Clowning 
The whole monster clown thing was bizarre - though the only thing I really remember from it was that some guy in a clown costume jumped out of a bush in Berlin to threaten some teenagers with a hammer and then got shanked.
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Oh, bother.
He actually predates it. He did the Elmo thing back in 2015.
Disgusted, but not surprised
A memory I have from that era was a story where somebody, fed up with the clowns scaring some kids by an elementary school, put on a Batman costume and began to chase them away.
Edited by Protagonist506 on Feb 24th 2023 at 5:55:02 AM
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Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
The clown thing was really strange where it seemed to become a trend because it was already a trend. Stories like that have been around for ages, but then one guy decided to actually do it and got enough attention that other people were copying the news footage of it and the people who got caught mostly admitted that they thought it was funny and the earlier ones who got caught said they didn't realize it wasn't a big trend already.
Edited by Zendervai on Feb 24th 2023 at 8:56:52 AM
Not Three Laws compliant.
Reading the article, I had a little sympathy for him.
Right until I read the part a about his website called "rape camp".
Lawmakers are latching onto shoplifting fears with tough-on-crime policies, blaming chain store closures on shoplifting. Needless to say, these are the usual increase-penalties crap that doesn't actually work. In addition, retailers are pushing for stricter laws against organized theft rings to nab the masterminds, which has the unfortunate side effect (very fortunate for cops) that the police are charging ordinary shoplifters who are lifting Tylenol off the shelf with organized theft, on account of stealing while black.
OG Troper
I just finished Murdaugh Murders, and hoo boy. Talk about a wealthy family that lost everything, and also has a son named Buster.
Edited by JethroQWalrustitty on Mar 8th 2023 at 12:28:55 PM
the statement above is false
OG Troper
I remember some similar cases in fiction, what is the trope of a crime org making members turn themself in? Like a subtrope of Even Evil Has Standards?
the statement above is false
It's mainly that killing American tourists is just bad for their business.
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Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
The retrial of Iwao Hakamata is given a green light in Tokyo due to the evidence given by prosecutors in the 1960s is circumstantial at best, given that they can't definitely determine if he was at the location of a quadruple murder case.
This case was aired by Vice as part of its documentary of hostage justice diplomacy.
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For Yakuza (both games and real life), it is a standart operating procedure.
Edited by Smeagol17 on Mar 13th 2023 at 9:55:42 PM
Foreign Troper
Holy crap, Trigger Warning, as this is extremely disturbing:
Some asshole little Tik Tok 'influencer' from Canada actually filmed the corpse of a man who got stabbed in front of his fiance and his 3 year old daughter
This has to be illegal somehow, right? I mean, seriously.
Apparently, he even returned to the site later and made another video (not covered in this article)
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Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/smuggling-akwesasne-simranjit-singh-1.6803168
There's an Indo-Canadian guy who got busted for being a smuggling broker to help people get to the US via St. Lawrence river.
His case, however, isn't related to the recent deaths reported by families trying to get to New York.
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OG Troper
So, Trap Lore Ross made an interesting documentary about the late King Von, and the question is, was Von a serial killer? There's a subset in true crime circles that say he doesn't count because the (alleged) murders were part of gang warfare, but the doc does lay out that many of them were not kill-or-be-killed or tit-for-tat revenge murders, and Von took an eerie pride in his deeds, and liked to crack jokes about "cereal"
the statement above is false
A criminal trial is for the specific criminal charge, a civil case can be much more broad and include things like partial liability/guilt.
It’s especially applicable here, as Rittenhouse has never denied carrying out the killings, his (successful in court) argument has just been that the killing were done in a manner not qualifying as homicide.
A death can be wrongful but the killer not guilty of homicide.
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