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So we have one thread for discussing terrorists of various stripes and another on the ethics of law enforcement. So why not cover crimes that are less specific? Like what an (failed) bank robbery that recently occurred or that recent manhunt in New York?

It probably goes without saying, but anything advocating crimes will get thumped, and "how to" posts suggesting how criminals could be smarter run the same risk.

Edited by Mrph1 on Oct 29th 2024 at 12:54:10 PM

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#276: May 24th 2021 at 11:55:35 PM

From what I can read of the article it’s an Italian film, it being done outside the US partly explains why a filmmaker would think this was something they could get away with.

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#277: May 25th 2021 at 12:04:14 AM

The director is none other than Frank Nero, in fact, one of the greatest Italian actors of the back-end of the 20th century. Most famous for his starring role as the original Django (which earned him a cameo in Tarantino's Django Unchained).

Very disappointed in him.

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#278: May 25th 2021 at 12:27:03 AM

Yeah, I guess, in Italy what Spacey did doesn't count as paedophilia [the age of consent there is 14] although I'd think it would count as sexual harassment even there.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#279: Jun 2nd 2021 at 9:17:41 PM

Singaporean and Malaysian law enforcement busted a syndicate that smuggled drugs via hollowed fire extinguishers.

Singapore's enacting an anti-drug campaign that would appeal to the youth.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#280: Jun 8th 2021 at 8:44:23 PM

So, I came across a rather interesting Twitter thread that was posted yesterday. I'll post a link to a more formal story and a link to the thread. The short version is this, an encrypted messaging app that has been frequently used in the criminal underworld has, the entire time, been run by the FBI, and every single message sent on it was blind CC'd to them.

Hundreds arrested in global crime sting after underworld app is hacked
European and Australian police join forces with FBI to seize weapons, drugs and $148m in cash

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/08/anom-encrypted-app-fbi-afp-australia-federal-police-sting-operation-ironside-an0m

    The Story 
The FBI set up its own encrypted platform used by hundreds of criminals around the world, in an “unprecedented” sting operation that led to more than 800 arrests in 18 countries, law enforcement officers have said.

The operation by the FBI and Australian and European police, ensnared suspects in Australia, Asia, Europe, South America and the Middle East involved in the narcotics trade.

More than 800 suspected members of organised crime gangs were arrested and $148m (£104m) in cash seized in raids around the world, along with tonnes of drugs, cryptocurrencies, weapons and luxury cars.

At a press conference in San Diego, the FBI said it was behind An0m, a supposedly secure encrypted messaging app, which was secretly developed and sold to organised crime networks.

Federal investigators deliberately shut down two rivals: the Canada-based Phantom Secure, closed in 2018 and accused of providing customised end-to-end encrypted devices to criminals, and a second Canadian firm, Sky Global, rolled up in March and also accused of involvement in crime.

Unwitting users then flocked to An0m, believing it to be secure.

In reality, the FBI received a blind copy of every message sent. By the time the operation was wound up on Monday more than 27m messages had been intercepted, sent across 12,000 devices in 45 different languages.

Seventeen foreign nationals were charged on Tuesday with racketeering after a sealed grand jury indictment was opened in the southern district of California. Eight have been detained. The others are fugitives. All helped to sell and distribute encrypted An0m phones, it is alleged.

Across the globe nine law enforcement officers in touch with criminal gangs have also been arrested, the FBI said. As a result of An0m’s “staggering intelligence” numerous drug shipments were intercepted, including a delivery of cocaine from Ecuador to Spain hidden inside containers of refrigerated tuna, it added.

The Australian prime minister said the operation “struck a heavy blow against organised crime – not just in this country, but one that will echo … around the world”. “This is a watershed moment in Australian law enforcement history,” Scott Morrison added.

The effort was “one of the largest and most sophisticated law enforcement operations to date in the fight against encrypted criminal activities,” said Jean-Philippe Lecouffe, the deputy director for operations of Europol, the agency that coordinates police activity among the 27 European Union countries, in a news conference in The Hague.

Operation Greenlight/Trojan Shield, conceived by Australian police and the FBI in 2018, was one of the biggest infiltrations and takeovers of a specialised encrypted network.

Using An0m, the FBI helped to infiltrate the phones into 300 criminal groups in more than 100 countries, Calvin Shivers of the FBI’s criminal investigative division told reporters in The Hague. He hailed the “innovative” way technology had been used to “bring criminals to justice”.

In a pattern repeated elsewhere, one Australian underworld figure began distributing phones containing the app to his associates, believing their communications were secure because the phones had been customised to remove all capabilities, including voice and camera functions, apart from An0m.

As a result, there was no attempt to conceal or code the details of the messages, which police were reading and in many cases translating.

“It was there to be seen, including ‘we’ll have a speedboat meet you at this point’, ‘this is who will do this’ and so on,” said the Australian federal police commissioner, Reece Kershaw. “We have been in the back pockets of organised crime … All they talk about is drugs, violence, hits on each other, innocent people who are going to be murdered.”

Shivers said the FBI had been able to see photographs of “hundreds of tonnes of cocaine that were concealed in shipments of fruit”. Australian police said they had arrested 224 people, including members of outlawed motorcycle gangs.

On Monday alone, they seized 104 firearms, including a military-grade sniper rifle, as well as almost A$45m (£25m) in cash, including A$7m from a safe buried under a garden shed in a suburb of Sydney.

In Europe, there were 49 arrests in the Netherlands, 75 in Sweden and over 60 in Germany, where authorities seized hundreds of kilograms of drugs, more than 20 weapons and over 30 luxury cars and cash.

The operation also revealed that gangs were being tipped off about police actions, which prompted “numerous high-level public corruption cases in several countries”, according to an affidavit from an FBI agent.

Kershaw said the Australian underworld figure, who had absconded, had “essentially set up his own colleagues” by distributing the phones, and was now a marked man.

“The sooner he hands himself in, the better for him and his family,” he said.

Here's a link to the original twitter thread I found it on:

https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/1402100449013125123

    The Thread 
DOJ just unsealed the search warrant on the "encrypted" laughing telecom used by thousands of Mobsters worldwide RUN BY THE FBI THE WHOLE TIME and it is a goddamned children's treasury of awesome.

Come, let us frolic!

First, as a sweetener, since most of my readers are still bloodthirsty for perp walks of the dingleberries pictured below, remember that Dipshit Mc Son In Law used these exact "technologies" to communicate with the Saudis and stuff.

So, what follows is how fucked they are.

The FBI, as some of continually remind the reader, has a great many tools available to Special Agents tracking Mob scumbags. This is just the experience of one SA.

Also, remember that Trump Tower was *at least* home to money laundering and illegal gambling.

This is just some of the hard evidence the FBI can use to nail RICO junkies: from phone bills to photos to flipped scumbag co-conspirators.

AND THAT'S BEFORE WE GET TO THE PHONES THEY SELL CRIMINALS WHO USE THE FBI'S OWN PHONES LIKE MORONS IT'S TOO GOOD!!!

GATHER 'ROUND, CHILDREN! Once upon a time there were Mobsters with SOOPER SEEKRIT communications whoops they got indicted because not actually seekrit woops prison

So they Bad Man who ran the Last Sooper Seekrit Tech Company for Drug Dealers turned state's evidence in 2018 and gave up all the Mobsters he knew.

And forfeited $80M in assets.

And this left a space in the "suicidally dumb Mobster tech" market.

See, drug dealers need real-time, encrypted, sooper seekrit communications.

And the FBI wants real-time, *actually encrypted,* *actually secret communications.*

There's a romance that awaits.

JUST A NOTE TO SILICON VALLEY: some tech guys and investors doing bad things with you may actually be either CH Ss or Special Agents undercover feeding you the next generation of The Product That Will Put You In Prison Forever.

HERE'S THE AMAZING PART ARE YOU SITTING DOWN

- FBI has the master key for encryption - EVERY message from Mobsters is blind cc'd to the FBI - All of it is observable in real time - All of it gets re-encrypted for real and saved by the FBI safe and sound

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA

And the FBI knows the unique identifier of every last motherf**kin' Mob scumbag

The indictments write themselves

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA

The FBI worked with the Australian Federal Police (Australia's FBI, essentially) and they gave out their new special Prison Teleportation Phones to special people - ONLY Mobsters. With the hopes that bigger bosses would use them.

Neato!

Interesting that while Bill Barr was at DOJ, FBI set this whole thing up but wasn't intercepting the comms...intriguing...

Huh...FBI was drafting off the court order of a third country that intercepted all the Mob comms until that order expired...

...TODAY.

no big deal just 20 MILLION messages intercepted from MAJOR CRIMINALS AND ONLY MAJOR SCUMBAG MOB CRIMINALS in 90 countries

that's all

AN 0 M IS ALREADY LEADING TO THE PROSECUTION OF POLITICIANS

do you see where this is going?

These phones are second only Bitcoin in their awesome ability to create court-ready evidence to put entire scumbag herds in the slammer.

It's impressive.

And lo, did the Mobsters yammer on these phone.

Boy, did they. In *detail.*

The Mobsters yammered about which corrupt officials helped them.

Wow. Thanks guys!

Seize 1500 kilos of cocaine? Pretty easy when you hear THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION OF EVERYONE ABOUT THE EVERYTHING!

Refrigerated fish. 1400 kilos. Bye!

Pineapples. 1600 kilos.

Damn, it DOESN'T feel good to be a gangster.

I don't know how the @FBI didn't pee themselves every time they read "Send secure message"

SECURE! SEND! SECURE! BWAAAHAHAAA! MESSAGE!!!

The rest of the search warrant application just explains why they want this guy's Gmail account to corroborate some stuff from the FBI's own service, Alexa, Order Me All The Prison Time™.

But it's the implications that matter...

This aforementioned dipshits USED FUCKING TWITTER DMs TO CONSPIRE WITH RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE.

This seems portentous. Because there is more to come.

The major implication is the PROSECUTION WATERFALL.

Each of these investigations leads to bank accounts and bribes and PA Cs and campaign donations and businesses and mayors and governors and TV producers...

And it's unstoppable now.

</THREAD>

CODA: They. Didn't. Even. Bother. With. Code. So. Juries. Will. Probably. Convict. Pretty. Easily.

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#281: Jun 9th 2021 at 4:07:57 AM

Y'know, when I watched The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and saw a similar dedicated app being used by the Flag Smashers, my first thought was: hold on, wouldn't that actually be a massive security risk in real life?

One day, we will read his name in the news and cheer.
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#282: Jun 13th 2021 at 10:44:43 PM

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14372307

The two Taylors who are accused by the TMPD to help Ghosn break out of police/prosecutor surveillance are on trial in Tokyo.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#283: Jun 18th 2021 at 12:17:58 PM

Swiss court jails Liberian commander in war crimes case. 20 years of jail followed by expulsion, for crimes like rape, murder and cannibalism.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#284: Jun 19th 2021 at 9:36:09 PM

What if a mob of Trump supporters storm the J. Edgar Hoover Building (headquarters of the FBI) demanding the release of everyone who stormed the Capitol on January 6? Believing that the rioters were peaceful protesters fighting a fraudulent election, that the people behind the violence were Antifa/Black Lives Matter people disguised as Trump supporters, and that they were wrongfully arrested?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#285: Jun 19th 2021 at 9:59:54 PM

You ask that like they wouldn't think that regardless of what they actually found.

More seriously, ~superboy313, that question is a bit of a random non sequitur, so I'm wondering why it's even being asked.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#286: Jun 19th 2021 at 10:25:09 PM

[up]Sorry, I was just wondering if the Capitol riots might inspire future incidents like it. Especially since one of the insurrectionists was killed by the police.

Not to mention I didn't really read this thread and thought it was for any kind of crimes. Including hypothetical ones.

Edited by superboy313 on Jun 19th 2021 at 9:26:30 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#287: Jun 20th 2021 at 2:31:15 AM

I’m pretty sure that anyone who tried to storm the FBI HQ is going to end up arrested and/or shot.

Remember, it took Trump personally gathering them all to get big enough numbers to be able to storm Congress. And even then they only pulled it off because both the Capitol Police and the National Guard were sabotaged from the inside.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#288: Jun 20th 2021 at 4:21:54 AM

An attempted storming of the FBI HQ would also probably be a MUCH bigger bloodbath than the Capitol riots. (With the vast majority of injuries and deaths being Trump supporters) Not to mention the reaction from right-wing media would be that of unbridled rage.

Edited by superboy313 on Jun 20th 2021 at 3:23:30 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#289: Jun 20th 2021 at 4:27:58 AM

Storming the FBI building would be an absolute mass suicide attempt.

While they may be stupid, they oughta have at least an iota of self-preservation instinct.

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Oh, bother.
#290: Jun 20th 2021 at 8:27:41 AM

Depends on whether their sense of entitlement and belief that they will never suffer any consequences is greater than their self preservation instincts.

Disgusted, but not surprised
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#291: Jun 20th 2021 at 8:35:36 AM

Personally, Trump supporters never impressed me as being at the brave, dedicated end of the spectrum. Their ideals seem to dissipate in proportion to the risk and self-sacrifice required of them.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#292: Jun 20th 2021 at 8:52:44 AM

These are the same people who couldn't grasp why the cops wouldn't be on their side in the Capitol raid, nor considerd what would happen to them when they bragged about it on social media. My personal favorite being a guy who tried to use it on a dating app, only for the prospective date to declare "We are not a match" and report him to the authorities ( https://www.npr.org/2021/04/23/990218018/bumble-blunder-man-allegedly-boasts-about-capitol-riot-on-dating-app-is-arrested )

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Oh, bother.
#293: Jun 20th 2021 at 8:58:52 AM

These people are cowards, but they're also entitled cowards who think that no matter what shit they pull they'll never suffer any serious consequences. Right up to the moment they get shot or arrested or whatever.

Edited by M84 on Jun 20th 2021 at 11:59:16 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#294: Jun 20th 2021 at 9:00:32 AM

I particularly like this one:

Romantic partners of alleged rioters have also helped investigators. Memorably, one suspect was turned in by his ex-girlfriend after sending her texts and photos from the insurrection, including one calling her a "moron."

Yes, it's obviously a great idea to pass proof of you violating the law to the same person you have just insulted...

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#295: Jun 20th 2021 at 10:02:02 AM

"Forget the myths the media's created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Edited by DeMarquis on Jun 20th 2021 at 1:03:20 PM

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#296: Jun 20th 2021 at 12:23:03 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by moderation to preserve the dignity of the author.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#297: Jun 20th 2021 at 5:36:22 PM

I feel like this has turned from a question on a theoretical into a pretty detailed violent fantasy…

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#298: Jun 20th 2021 at 6:08:22 PM

[up]Yeah, I apologize for the disturbing mental imagery but I think it would be a pretty accurate description of what would happen.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#299: Jun 21st 2021 at 2:13:13 AM

This could've been a good idea for a security exercise.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#300: Jun 21st 2021 at 3:30:54 AM

To be honest, I'd like if folks refrained from bringing up the misdeeds of Trump supporters. They tend to be boring, offtopic and often degenerate into sneering.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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