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VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#427: Dec 13th 2022 at 3:12:48 AM

So Jason Todd was Red X.

What happened to Terra and what was the white monster at the end? wild mass guess Just watched a video theorizing that

  • When Trigon was defeated and all of the stone people were freed, Terra got freed with them. That'd be some Buffy-esque shenaningans.
  • Terra does remember Beast Boy but is actively, intensely trying to abandon her past and reinvent herself. The episode makes this point a little hard to understand when you're young, as Slade and Beast Boy argue and Slade supports the view point that Terra doesn't want to remember. You want to be on BB's side and assume Slade did something. Terra's side is that she just isn't the same person and BB is wrong. Given how this show adapts characters differently (see Red X) its not hard to imagine this Tara is just a lookalike, and the franchise ends here with no definite answer.
    • Heck, the Trigon freeing her thing is just speculation. Let's reframe that - the show never gives any explanation for how or why Terra would be free. She just is. The statue of her is gone.
  • The white monster was a metaphor for the episode's title and theme of "things changing" as the monster was adapting to/changing things around it.

The real mystery that remains though?

  • What the heck did Robin have in that briefcase?

Edited by FOFD on Dec 13th 2022 at 6:16:13 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#428: Dec 13th 2022 at 7:26:09 AM

The monster felt like a prelude for some new arc we won't see, showing how there are new threats in the city that grew while the Titans were on a world tour.

And I always figured that what was on the briefcase was important to Robin personally, like old Haley's Circus memorabilia or the like. And the villains think he had, like, a secret Bat arsenal in there or something.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#429: Dec 13th 2022 at 8:37:12 AM

A shame we haven't gotten a fan continuation of the 2003 series.

I remember the episode with Robin's briefcase was followed by the Titans origin episode which, weirdly, aired in like the 4th or 5th season. I always thought the case contained some kind of video or evidence of their first meeting.

GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#430: Dec 13th 2022 at 6:08:48 PM

I think the monster is supposed to be just a threat that the Titans couldn't handle without Beast Boy. It also works as an embodiment of the episode's theme of change and adaptation to current circumstances.

I always thought the briefcase was supposed to be a nod to Pulp Fiction. It's just a plot device with some added mystery and intrigue by not revealing its contents.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#431: Dec 13th 2022 at 6:17:21 PM

Yeah. The Briefcase itself wasn't important. It's that Robin was willing to show it to them (after being shown to keep secrets previously, like the entire debacle with Red X) that mattered.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#432: Mar 24th 2023 at 9:47:03 AM

Sarcastic Chorus looks at the Beast Boy x Raven ship that this show generated despite them not actually hooking up in the show.

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#433: Mar 24th 2023 at 10:06:41 AM

[up]Teen Titans Go did fuel the Beast Boy/Raven ship though.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#434: May 27th 2023 at 7:01:46 AM

So does anybody remember the episode where that silver dude Valior came in and started being racist towards Starfire?

I'm watching a review of that episode and holy crap I do not remember this episode.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#435: May 27th 2023 at 10:56:30 AM

That one's one of the most praised episodes of the show from what I remember from online discourse, as it doesn't beat you over the head with its Very Special message and didn't go for the low hanging fruit of Cyborg facing discrimination (though he mentions he did in the past).

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#436: May 27th 2023 at 11:32:36 AM

The show was built on using the fantastical superhero stuff as metaphors for real stuff kids deal with; this was just one case where the metaphor was fairly obvious. (See also: Starfire's alien puberty episode.)

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#437: Aug 12th 2023 at 5:48:19 AM

I just remembered that Lightspeed (Kid flasj x Jinx was a thing,that's it thats the summary for this video it's those two characters

also the voice actors for Kid Flash are Billy West Michael Rosenbaum and Lauren Tom (Amy Wong)

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 12th 2023 at 2:23:00 PM

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#438: Aug 12th 2023 at 6:02:07 AM

...isn't Fry in a relationship with Leela?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#439: Aug 12th 2023 at 6:04:45 AM

and Kiff is in a relationship with Amy

I dunno,thought it was an interesting parallel

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#440: Aug 12th 2023 at 6:18:40 AM

Kid Flash is Michael Rosenbaum not Billy West isn't it? It's a nod to his role as Flash in the DCAU because both characters are Wally West.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#441: Aug 12th 2023 at 6:20:21 AM

God dammit he is

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 12th 2023 at 2:20:58 PM

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#442: Aug 12th 2023 at 8:15:17 AM

[up] (2) It is I just thought you were implying they should cheat because those ships were better.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#443: Aug 12th 2023 at 9:08:49 AM

I actually remember quite a bit of backlash for that racism episode, considering the implication that Star wiped out those robot things. They’re supposedly a mindless Horde of Alien Locusts, but… all we have on that is the word of Racist Captain Atom. Maybe they were sentient and had a perfectly legitimate grievance with him?

Also, I think there was another Star-focused episode whose ending unintentionally created the implication that Blackfire was raped by her Hutt-like accomplice? I once heard someone say that twenty years AGP’s wacky gag can easily become today’s Me Too situation, and I definitely got that vibe from that episode - especially since not-Hutt-guy wasn’t punished at all despite being just as guilty of the evil plan as Blackfire.

CheapMarzipan A Low Cost Confection Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
A Low Cost Confection
#444: Aug 12th 2023 at 9:24:01 AM

[up] It’s been a while since I watched that episode but didn’t they just banish Blackfire from Tameran? Blackfire asks where she’s supposed to live now and the slime alien motions to himself. Considering he was scheming to get Starfire to marry him he might want something like that but he can’t really force Blackfire to do anything.

They probably also banished the slime-alien from Tameran but he didn’t live there in the first place so it doesn’t matter much.

As far as the racism episode goes: That “is” kind of worrying, but while Val-Yor acts racist towards Starfire he never tries to get her killed or anything, so it’s probably best to assume he was telling the truth about the robot aliens.

Edited by CheapMarzipan on Aug 12th 2023 at 11:28:03 AM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#445: Aug 12th 2023 at 9:29:15 AM

I can’t remember, do the robots actually DO anything to anyone other than Shiny Douchebag?

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Goku Black
#446: Aug 12th 2023 at 9:37:55 AM

I think people got confused with the fact blackfire is married to him with kids in the New Teen Titans shorts.

But Those uh aren't really meant to be taken as Canon lol.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#447: Aug 12th 2023 at 9:57:20 AM

Wait what

Blackfire and the Slime Alien had kids

What

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#448: Aug 12th 2023 at 1:38:13 PM

lol wut indeed.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#449: Aug 12th 2023 at 1:42:32 PM

I just looked up Blackfire's wiki page to confirm this and found a screencap of her dancing in the club.

May I just say I love how the Titans' identities were literal in this universe. Robin and the others just go to a rave fully in costume and nobody questions it.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#450: Aug 12th 2023 at 3:12:15 PM

They don't find out Beast Boy has a real name until like Season 4, meaning they went around calling each other codenames the entire show.

As for the Blackfire thing, there's no real issue there. The plot of that episode was that Blackfire would stage an alien invasion to strong-arm Starfire into marrying the green slime guy. She was banished from Tamaran, but the slime guy wasn't actually as bad as he seemed, he was part of the conspiracy.


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