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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jun 28th 2015 at 3:49:58 PM

Ok, I accept that a quote button isn't a thing that's going to happen. (I think the reason for it is wrong but I'm not here to start that argument.) However, I'm tired of this sequence:

  • Reply to a post using the [up] times however many
  • Submit, realize that someone or several someones replied before you did.
  • Sigh, count how many replies there were, edit post.

Can we please have a button or command that makes it easy to designate a reply as being to a specific post? And perhaps have it supply markup that links to the post in question?

(Possible markup suggestion: [[reply:42]] -> translates to a link that reads something like Re: Troper @42 )

edited 28th Jun '15 3:51:17 PM by Elle

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#2: Jun 28th 2015 at 6:52:10 PM

You know, I have been on some forums have an feature that says X people have replied (and by replied, I mean that people are angry over my thread or something stupid) message while I'm typing in a new post. Here, it would help on how many [up]'s to post.

edited 28th Jun '15 6:54:21 PM by RabidTanker

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#3: Jun 29th 2015 at 9:14:42 PM

Denoting replies with e.g. "@42" is a thing you can do already. I generally only do it when it's a substantial number of posts away, but still.

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#4: Jun 29th 2015 at 9:19:43 PM

We aren't going to get a reply-link as a standard forum feature absent a future complete overhaul. This has been on the wishlist for some time.

edited 29th Jun '15 9:19:58 PM by Fighteer

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Dec 24th 2015 at 4:20:29 AM

Worth noting that such a function has been proposed as an alternative to a quote button.

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#6: Dec 24th 2015 at 4:52:32 AM

With the main argument against quote buttons ("Fast Eddie doesn't like them") no longer being an issue, do we need an alternative?

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#7: Dec 24th 2015 at 4:56:40 AM

"Fast Eddie doesn't like them" is not the only issue with quote buttons. The ones I mentioned in the quote button thread are also problems.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#8: Dec 24th 2015 at 5:07:30 AM

The problems you mention there would be largely the same if this was implemented instead, except for the point about repetition... but it's easy to skip quotes (which are clearly marked) and less easy to go back to the post being replied to to find which parts are being responded to

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#9: Dec 24th 2015 at 5:12:18 AM

Whether the problems exist or not is not the issue, since we already have quote markup. The issue is that a quote button would make the problems worse by facilitating and encouraging the use of the markup - as experience shows, facilitating something means that people are more likely to do it.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#10: Dec 24th 2015 at 5:19:17 AM

Unless the problem is specifically people using quotes, I don't think implementing a quote button will change much. As is, people regularly use arrows, @post#, @tropername, and various other methods to respond to specific posts. Or just respond to a specific post without marking it, confusing everyone. Fragmented conversations and pointless back and forths are simply things that happen on message boards

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#11: Dec 24th 2015 at 5:20:39 AM

Yes, people using quotes is a problem, as I noted in the other thread. Also, there is no handy "insert" button for things other than arrows, so that analogy doesn't work so well.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#12: Dec 24th 2015 at 5:29:40 AM

...I already covered why I disagree with the notion that quotes are bad

Whether the response options are technologically assisted is immaterial to the point I was making, which is that the problems that the lack of a quote button is supposed to help with aren't being slowed down at all

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#13: Dec 24th 2015 at 5:36:57 AM

with aren't being slowed down at all

The implication being that installing a quote button will not make the use of quotes more frequent. Which is at best wishful thinking, and makes one wonder why the button would be a help or useful in any way.

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