I think so. Starfire even lampshades how familiar the situation is.
Saw "The Cape".
Really mixed bag of an episode. Some of the jokes were hilarious and I was able to buy the premise easily since it's basically an episode of an Abridged Series. However, other jokes fell really flat while the editing and voice acting felt off.
edited 30th Apr '17 4:11:10 PM by Karxrida
Someone in the CN thread brought up "The Return of Slade" and I'm watching it right now.
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I actually passive-aggressively loathed the idea when it first premiered but the peisode where everybody died and became ghosts, and the cringy, pervy Lady Legasus bits with Raven got laughs out of me. I tolerate this show more than most.
That said.
The Return of Slade feels just a teensy bit mean-spirited. I mean, I like the old show. So this kind of damages my nostalgia.They could've done this better just by doing gags with Slade. Maybe Ron Perlman wasn't available?
Turnabout might be fair play, but this felt awfully targeted and it was a much worse episode for it.
edited 2nd Jul '17 7:17:23 AM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!I guess the biggest issue is that a lot of this criticism and counter-criticism wouldn't be happening if the show weren't based on the Teen Titans at all. If it were just a bunch of original characters hanging out and having weird goofy adventures, then it would just be another comedy cartoon on Cartoon Network. Nothing all that good, but nothing offensively bad either. In other words, it would be evaluated purely for what it is, and not for how it compares to the original Teen Titans. But instead, this show is called Teen Titans Go. In other words, this show is not meant to stand alone. It was made with the intent that people who watched, knew, and loved the original series would watch it. Since viewers associate it with the original Teen Titans, they aren't going to let that association go if they don't like it. Now, don't get me wrong—even taken on its own merits, Teen Titans Go is by no means quality television. But maybe if it had been a standalone series instead of a remake of a much-loved preexisting series, it wouldn't have gotten so much criticism, and hence the writers wouldn't have felt the need to call out their critics in episodes like "The Return of Slade" and "Mas y Menos".
Like I said, there's really nothing inherently wrong with TTG in and of itself. The problem is that it's inevitably going to be compared to the older Teen Titans series. Viewers who watch it because they associate it with the older series they love aren't going to disavow that association if they don't like the new version. If this show had just been its own thing, and had nothing to do with the Teen Titans, then the complaints by viewers that it "ruined their childhood" wouldn't have happened. It would just be another mediocre comedy on Cartoon Network.
PS: If you, by chance, do NOT dislike the show, then my apologies for generalizing.
edited 10th Jun '17 4:46:33 PM by ElSquibbonator
I have no strong feelings about it one way or the other, to be honest. I just think its sins are exaggerated and the hate for it is overblown.
I think it's sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. The fans of the original show criticized TTG for being too goofy and silly, the TTG writers replied by making episodes (like "Let's Get Serious") that satirized the fans' complaints, the fans lost their collective shit over the writers being needlessly petty, the writers made MORE episodes mocking the fans of the original (like "The Return of Slade") and so on and so forth.
If anything, this says less about the show's actual quality and more about the possibility that the writers aren't good at taking criticism. The episode "Mas y Menos" is another case in point. The Titans are watching videos on a You Tube-like website, and one of the suggested videos is called "Teen Titanz NO!" by "Childhood Destroyed!" The user icon is a photo of a crying baby. There's no subtlety here: this is what the writers think of their critics, and they aren't afraid to use their show to say it.
In sum, I think TTG is a mediocre, if overexposed, series that became the victim of a tug-of-war between its writers and its critics.
edited 10th Jun '17 7:26:46 PM by ElSquibbonator
The irony is the (as mentioned elsewhere) Don't Shoot the Message factor of "The Return Of Slade", where in my mind it could be said that the original Titans show was made out to be edgier than it really was. Again, aside from the fact that Go warped a specific version of the Titans to the chagrin of many, it's not like that idealized form of the Titans wasn't somewhat bowdlerized to begin with.
edited 21st Jun '17 5:05:00 PM by azul120
It was still lighter fare compared to Batman: the Animated Series, Justice League, etc., and of course, the '80s comics. Plus it followed the sad early millennium fauxnime trend. It tried to have it both ways but shifted itself, which in a way was worse.
Plus since then we've gotten Young Justice and the new DCAU TT movies.
As has been said previously, there were no allusions to death (save for Slade I guess) and villains for the most part were stripped of sympathetic motivations to keep viewers from Rooting for the Empire. Also, the solid dramatic moments were ruined by inane animesque doubletakes.
It's true that its fans tend to exaggerate its edginess, and it's true that its kiddie show conventions sometimes undermined the drama (Terra's infamous "Destroy me! Quick!" being a standout example), but nevertheless, Teen Titans was emotionally mature. Shit could get very real, and I'm not talking about Slade's spooky skeleton face.
Take the series finale. The thesis of that episode, in a nutshell, is: "Your childhood won't last forever (in fact, it'll be over before you know it), your friends are going to leave you, there are no easy answers, and You Can't Go Home Again. Goodbye."
A lot of people think that episode sucks (I remember quite a backlash), but I think it's not only a great finale but a great example of the show taking its audience seriously.
It's why I hate Beast Boy's current incarnation in Teen Titans Go, because he's a one dimensional character that lacks any empathy for others and thinks only about himself. The same can go for Cyborg, who was transformed from being a multifaceted character to just being almost interchangeable in personality with Beast Boy. In the original show, Cyborg was the big and smart guy at the same time. Their current forms can only be one dumb joke, while their past selves could be used in funny and serious scenarios.
All of the Titans in this show are flanderized to parody charictures of their former selves.
In other news, Avengers Assemble is a shittier version of Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Case in point, that whole rant I did which somehow led to me getting my permission to comment banned . . . I'm still pretty salty about that but you get my point on how old it is getting talking about how different the Titans are in this show.
I might be misrepresenting things but I think a lot of the backlash was that people just found it confusing and ambiguous as to whether it was actually Terra and the random Slade robot that shows up.
If you choose to interpret the episode as the girl Beast Boy meets being the real Terra, who wants to move on and put her grief behind her to start a new life, then the episode makes sense and I agree that it sends a fairly adult message about the impermanence of life, how the things you cherish eventually end and that you need to move on.
edited 24th Jun '17 12:05:35 AM by Draghinazzo
To me there's really no question that the schoolgirl is Terra. I don't think it makes much sense to make an episode all about Beast Boy misidentifying some random kid and playing it for drama. Plus there's so much in the episode that's thematically consistent, like the Titans returning home only to find that the city is not as they remember it.
Next week they're releasing one (or more?) Sequel Episodes to "40% 40% 20%".
edited 2nd Jul '17 12:42:37 AM by Karxrida
Come to think of it, I believe that's one of the few episodes that's widely liked.
And speaking of quality; is it me, or has the comedy of this show has became more hit or miss?
As in:
An episode about the subject that I almost got banned on here for mocking about? That was funny.
The one where Robin became an giant avocado felt forced and the ending wound up as an parody of the ending of that last Alien movie.
The last episode felt forced and boring to me.
I know there's more of them, but my brain is too decayed to remember more about this show.
Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break

So they really did just redo the Tofu episode from the original series.
#IceBearForPresident