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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#251: Aug 2nd 2015 at 12:11:07 PM

They don't fly because they don't want them to fly, though. When given good time slots and promotion, action shows still can pull good ratings and merit renewed seasons, especially when they have already proved franchise names and also add comedy elements without forgetting the action angle (see Avengers Assemble, Ultimate Spider-Man and Nick's TMNT).

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#252: Aug 2nd 2015 at 12:51:44 PM

...I kind of get why the producers react the way they do, especially if they A) keep having to answer questions about their reaction to the haters/critics in nearly every interview, and B) had to deal with the hate since the show aired; it'll get tiring after a while. I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate criticisms against the show (the humor is largely hit-or-miss, and that mostly changes depending on the episode), but there's usually only so much that could be done to curb the dislike without turning the show into something completely different.

Maybe it'll change if CN ever airs another DC adaption (or any new action show) that is similar to the ones people really liked (i.e. Green Lanternand Young Justice, which were taken off air around the point TTG surfaced —which itself is a part of why it gained instant hate. I haven't watched those shows, but I did like Beware the Batman for the short time it was on CN). Going by the current dearth of them on the network, I suspect that they just were gaining the rating they needed to survive, among other things.

Anyways, the Justice League episode sounds like it'll be a blast (can't wait to see Darkseid). I'm looking forward to it.waii

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#253: Aug 2nd 2015 at 10:58:13 PM

In a sense, I understand the producers' point of view. They're just trying to make a successful show, and make it as funny and entertaining as possible.

the conflict is mostly because

1) they are crafting their show almost exclusively for young children in terms of the humor and general writing, and most of the people complaining are older and think the humor is either hit-or-miss or outright bad. in that sense i think some of the complaints are a little bit misplaced, kids' tv doesn't have to be bad but it's also not necessarily meant to cater to older people either.

2) on the other hand, this makes the fact that Go is so closely tied to the original show a bizarre choice because their core audience won't be familiar with it, and older audiences who may happen to be fans of the older show won't like it either because it's different and/or because they don't care for the show's writing, so why wouldn't they just use other dc characters or make their own? it just seems like a strange choice because a lot of the vitriol they're getting could have been avoided and yet here we are.

if go wasn't so close to the old show i think more people would be content to just call it bad and forget about it.

edited 2nd Aug '15 11:04:21 PM by wehrmacht

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#254: Aug 2nd 2015 at 11:30:10 PM

The Justice League and Darkseid (voiced by Weird Al Yankovic) will appear in the third season.

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#255: Aug 3rd 2015 at 4:14:40 AM

Weird Al voicing Darkseid? Oddly an improvement from Steve Blum voicing the character.

Kind of wish they made Animal Man a show though. That would be fun.

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#256: Aug 3rd 2015 at 6:15:26 AM

Weird Al voicing Darkseid?

Well shoot. I'm gonna have to see how they can pull that off, because I can't really picture it.

[up] It's funny that you mention the Animal Man shorts because Darkseid was actually in one of them.

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#257: Aug 3rd 2015 at 6:16:51 AM

And I also was hoping for SBFF to become a series, but that didn't happen as you can see.

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#258: Aug 3rd 2015 at 6:31:43 AM

[up] Actually, that's my second pick for DC Nation shows made into an actual series.

Funny enough I want to see it turn out a Cartoon Network/DC Comics version of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Right down to having a main six of their own; I'm thinking add in Starfire, Raven and Miss Martian. Unless they want to go for female versions of the JLA; in that case add in Aquagirl, Miss Martian, Arisa and XS (XS will obviously be the token minority and token Flash Family since all good DC shows needs a Flash main character).

Animal Man is my fourth choice to be honest, with Just Alotof Animals as number 5, Amyntyst at number 3 and number one being Plastic Man.

. . . . . . WHY ISN'T PLASTIC MAN A THING!?! He was great in B:TBATB and has a history of being a classic cartoon character, they should of greenlight his show!

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#259: Aug 3rd 2015 at 7:35:55 AM

[up]IKR? The fact they gave him some new shorts is what pisses me off more that his show didn't get greenlit. I'm guessing making a Plastic Man cartoon is more expensive then making Go!.

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#260: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:28:46 AM

Anyway, on my thoughts of the "Return of Slade" episode . . . wasted potential really.

I know they aren't going to give the fans the menacing, Knight of Cerebus that we all know; I just didn't expect them to just not show him at all. I was expecting him to be GO!-ified as a comedic parody to his character just like Trigon (who became a bumbling dad). Like a Slade who is specifically to be an evil version of the Titans in that series except with even more random silliness and jerkiness to the point where he constantly breaks the fourth wall very often. Whats more, he will retain his comic origin of being a mercenary and insists the Titans (as well as the audience) refer to his cooler name of Deathstroke. The plot of the episode could be him joining the Titans only to just troll the shit out of them with his own brand of randomness. He will also have an insane love for eating enchiladas and watching The Facts of Life (with an infatuation for Charlotte Rae).

Basically in short, this episode could of been the DC equivalent to adapting Deadpool; which will be no different from Doctor Fate, Aquaman and Grundy forming the Defenders in Justice League and Atom taking up Bumblebee as his protegee in Younge Justice (don't need to explain the Marvel reference with that).

edited 3rd Aug '15 9:32:27 AM by BigK1337

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#261: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:33:42 AM

Instead, it was a meta episode about the fans bitching. I, for one, enjoyed it.

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#262: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:36:26 AM

the problem is they act like fans don't have legitimate complaints besides "THIS ISN'T LIKE THE OLD SHOW WHERE EVERYTHING WAS SUPER SRS".

i mean yeah your show is a success with its demographic, but you can't and shouldn't expect older fans to like the show.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#263: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:40:35 AM

[up][up]Meh, could of been better if it was a Deadpool episode instead. The comedy in that show would fit his style of humor.

And since I mention Deathstroke in that episode could of been like Deadpool, that was a missed opportunity for the writers to vent their take that to the audience by using the villain to attack said criticism. Seriously, a gold mine of an episode could of been made from the simple premise of making the Teen Titan's most dangerous enemy into a crazy stalker who is even more insane then the Titans themselves . . . and they opt out for another take that with some non-Joker/Duela Dent clown as the main antagonist.

Again, waste of potential.

[up] In short, anybody on the internet who made a popular webcomic filled with author filibusters and shit humor that the author doesn't want to improve on (I think I just described Sinfest and pre-reboot Ctrl+Alt+Del in a nutshell).

edited 3rd Aug '15 9:44:46 AM by BigK1337

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#264: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:41:43 AM

Seriously, a gold mine of an episode could of been made from the simple premise of making the Teen Titan's most dangerous enemy into a crazy stalker

You mean he wasn't already?

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#265: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:45:47 AM

[up] Played for laughs . . . by having him want to join the team . . . as part of a ridiculous scheme to destroy the team . . . which isn't necessary so he just join for shits and giggles . . . with a Deadpool personality . . . Deadpool in Teen Titans Go.

edited 3rd Aug '15 9:47:10 AM by BigK1337

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#266: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:14:19 AM

[up]Maybe they did have a plan to have Slade for real, but they couldn't get Ron Perlman because he was too preoccupied with wanting to make Hellboy 3 a reality and they thought "Ron Perlman or bust" and they had to go with "bust" because of what I already said.

But hey...Slade as a Deadpool expy?

...That has potential. Seriously how do these guys come up with their ideas? WB Animation should fire those yokels and get guys like you to write episodes because...wow.

By the way, out of pure curiosity, does anyone if Nolan North can do a good impression of Ron Perlman?

edited 3rd Aug '15 10:15:27 AM by TargetmasterJoe

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#267: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:30:45 AM

[up] I know right! If they needed a writer for the show who doesn't like the original Teen Titans cartoon I should work on the show. At least I will 1) actually set up episodes that are funny and 2) make take thats to the original series without coming off as tasteless to the fan base.

Anyway, Nolan North can do a good Ron Pearlman's Slade impersonation. He did voice Deathstroke in Injustice: Gods Among Us.

edited 3rd Aug '15 10:31:27 AM by BigK1337

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#268: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:47:36 AM

I liked "The Return of Slade" as is, but that Deadpool idea sounds so good that I wish that was what they did.

[up]x6 I imagine they keep treating that as the only/main complaint because that is probably the most common criticism they get. As far as for expecting the older fans to like it,note  I'm under the impression that they were never intentionally aiming to include them in the first place (outside of throwing in references, cameos, and Easter Eggs that only comic and/or older DC adaptation fans would get that is).

edited 3rd Aug '15 10:48:24 AM by Customer

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#269: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:06:43 AM

[up][up] Then the whole Slade being a Deadpool expy thing can go full circle since one of Nolan's more recognized roles is Deadpool.

Really though, have you ever considered actually applying for a job as writer there? Because if you could come up with a script with that idea and find a way to get WB Animation to actually notice it and convince them that it won't leave a dent in ratings, you could go places, son.

You could go places. [awesome]

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#270: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:12:05 AM

Which I always felt was an oddly specific distinction; I'm sure not every fan is a kid and not every hater is an adult and/or old enough to fondly remember the original cartoon.

not every fan is a kid but the show is mainly successful with its own demographic, and it's pretty obvious that the show was made specifically to cater to them. this is especially noticeable when you compare it to cartoons like avatar, steven universe, adventure time, etc which are much more popular with older audiences because their writing is more inclusive to their tastes.

I'm under the impression that they were never intentionally aiming to include them in the first place (outside of throwing in references, cameos, and Easter Eggs that only comic and/or older DC adaptation fans would get that is).

besides the references all of the designs and vas in the series are from the old cartoon. what was the point of that if their demographic was just going to be people who've never seen it? it was just bound to rub fans of the old show the wrong way. they should have just used other dc characters or made their own, as i said before, and with that they would have avoided a lot of the backlash. they had to know this was coming.

edited 3rd Aug '15 11:19:03 AM by wehrmacht

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#271: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:36:42 AM

they should have just used other dc characters or made their own, as i said before, and with that they would have avoided a lot of the backlash. they had to know this was coming.

[up] Like an adaption to Inferior Five . . . . . WHY ISN'T THAT A THING!?!

That team was made specifically for making fun of super heroes in DC comics back in the 60s! Its like Marvel decided to make a parody of their team with many references staring the cast of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes when they can get a better less tasteless result with using the Great Lake Avengers!

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#272: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:45:00 AM

[up][up][up] Haven't really considered that. If I did do it hopefully it will lead me to creating my own adaption of a DC comic (hopefully its Justice League, I have some cool ideas for that reboot).

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#273: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:44:31 PM

Instead, it was a meta episode about the fans bitching.

Which seem to be becoming routine.

When one's got reason on their side and is sure of that, one doesn't need to be playing defensive constantly.

A good Slade idea might be playing part of the episode in 'Titan vision' from the Titans' own perspective (the show as usual) and another part in 'Slade vision' (Slade, serious as ever, shows up, and from his perspective, we see the Titans drawn just like in the old style, but behaving the GO! way. This eventually drives Slade nuts in confusion and frustration to the point he gives up and leaves, or something like that).

edited 3rd Aug '15 12:48:53 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#274: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:48:28 PM

Edit: Sorry, double post.

edited 3rd Aug '15 12:49:09 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

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#275: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:16:40 PM

besides the references all of the designs and vas in the series are from the old cartoon. what was the point of that if their demographic was just going to be people who've never seen it? it was just bound to rub fans of the old show the wrong way. they should have just used other dc characters or made their own, as i said before, and with that they would have avoided a lot of the backlash. they had to know this was coming

That's what bugs me the most. Why are they making a show made specifically with kids in mind but make it an spinoff of a show that they likely never saw because it was before their time? It's confusing, really.

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