Tangled: the Series

Welp, I guess that Quirin's former Brotherhood membership is going to be relevant after all. Even if Rapunzel and Eugene were told that he used to be a member, it's probable that the information didn't stick with them. So now Cass has two of the most dangerous warriors in the world at her beck and call, plus one very well positionned spy.

Also, I'm very amused by the fact that Zhan Tiri's most prominent skill so far is boomerang proficiency. After all the hype on her magical prowess, it's rather unexpected for her to be so good with that thing.

I’m guessing A tale of two sisters is basically The Eye of Pincosta 2.0.

I wouldn't call it that. I'll have to watch a second time but, just as Cassandra is about to have a change of heart, she sees a magic mirror that was planted in Rapunzel's backpack by the sadistic girl. It seemingly shows Gothel saying she loves Cassandra and hands her a music box, but the ending shows that it was just to get her out of the way. So yeah, Cassandra still hates Rapunzel.

And Zhan Tiri continues to be a great villain. Though I'm curious by the fact that she called Demanitus "old friend." Could they have been lovers or friends?

Lovers seems doubtful, esp since Zhan Tiri feels very eldritch shapeshifter so that just. doesn't seem like something that she'd do. But friends, maybe. I can see ZT as an Evil Former Friend to Demanitus.

Probably just a Term Of Endangerment.

The extent to which Cassandra is being petty is really quite amazing. The first half of the episode is just her being an asshole unprovoked, yet trying to be self-righteous about it.

I wonder how this is all going to end for her? Even if she realizes she's helping Zhan Tiri, the reasons she's acting this way haven't really changed. I wouldn't be surprised if this all ends with her realizing she was wrong to act the way she did, but Walking the Earth because she still can't bear to stay.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 10th 2020 at 12:20:48 PM

There are those who think she'll have a Death Equals Redemption ending.

I'm expecting an Enemy Mine situation once Cass realizes that ZT has been manipulating her. A lot about this season and the show in particular has been strongly about Rapunzel's and Cass's relationship so I kinda doubt she'll straight up die.

I don't think so. She's been in the show too long as part of the Power Trio, without her issues being front and center. If this was a turn that started in Season 1 I'd buy that, but this is basically a stint as an Arc Villain that she's already having usurped from her. We knew from the moment this started that this would be temporary.

There isn't really a point to having her die at this point, except maybe to fridge her against Zhan Tiri.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 10th 2020 at 5:42:13 AM

I believe it got spoiled somewhere that she gets the Walking the Earth atonement ending.

It still amuses me that Zhan Tiri, the villain hyped for their mystical might, with numerous sorcerers and demons in their employ, are bringing their plans about using such mundane means as a boomerang and a wax statue combined with some mechanical stuff.

I just wonder how absurd the explosion of power will be at the climax.

Edited by Sannom on Feb 11th 2020 at 11:04:55 AM

I just want to see her/Cass use the mind trap.

Technically, Cassandra's already used it. Now we need to see how they're going to use those soldiers they've acquired, especially the one Eugene and Rapunzel (I keep almost typing Raiponce, it's annoying, the french dub is just released too close to the original now) seem to have forgotten about. Maybe Adira and Hector will be confrontational from the start in order to distract Rapunzel, only for Quirin to intervene at the eleventh hour and ruin everyone's day.

There's an old theory that Zhan Tiri is Varian's mother. It's probably not true but Qirin definitely knows SOMETHING.

Also what were the source of the spoilers

Edited by LordYAM on Feb 13th 2020 at 9:25:44 AM

And then it will turn out that, actually, Gothel is Varian's biological mother and Quirin is Cassandra's biological dad, and the two youngsters were part of a gigantic plot by Zhan Tiri to get out of her prison just in time for the eclipse, with both the Moonstone and the Sundrop having human avatars.

How could Zhan Tiri have pulled that off ? I don't know. Maybe seer powers ?

We've seen a portrait of Varian's mom, she looks like an ordinary lady. But Quirin definitely knows something, he wrote more on that letter than just "I'm proud of you."

I figured that had more to do with Aborted Arc. They were pretty clearly originally setting up to do more with Villain! Varian before plans presumably changed, and it’s probable the letter was originally tied up in that.

But then they decided to do the current plot with Cass instead, so Varian was hastily brought back to the light and the letter was a simple “I’m proud of you” to quickly tie up his story.

All for the better, imo, but there was definitely some gear changing there.

My guess regarding Flynnpostor is that Cass will find the shard in the last two mins of the episode. Then Cass will appear at the start of the episode after that as a fully good person. This means that Cass’s character arc will appear to be rushed.

Edited by 55555 on Feb 15th 2020 at 1:18:39 AM

Or maybe her mind is so warped that she'll think Rapunzel fabricated that shard just to spite her. Her Never My Fault and Moral Myopia tendencies have been significantly dialed up this season.

I really hope we're not going to get those kinds of lost parent shenanigans. Not least because Varian had a crush on Cass in season one. I mean, Disney does own Star Wars now, so there's technically precedent for that sort of thing, but I can't say I'd be excited about having it here.

I really couldn't care less who Cass's dad or Varian's mum is. I don't expect it to be at all important. In particular, it seems perfectly in character for Gothel to get herself knocked up by some rando in order to sate her own vanity over having a young woman's fertile body once more.

Maybe Cass turns good at the start of "Once a Handmaiden" but she turns evil again at the end of that episode. After all, the synopsis for the season finale says:

Rapunzel and her friends must take Corona back from Cassandra, and finally confront the evil Zhan Tiri.

Edited by 55555 on Feb 15th 2020 at 5:14:12 AM

Once A Handmaidens description is that Cass goes to Corona apologize, right? It doesn’t say anything about her succeeding, or even going through with it.

Even the title of the episode itself doesn’t bode well for Cass getting through it without blowing her stack.

My guess is that Zhan Tiri is going to betray her and BRUTALLY rub it in. Essentially forcing her to admit that she betrayed Rapunzel for nothing

If she somehow learns this and STILL tries overpowering her, that would be a surprise.

Edit: I'm surprised Cassandra and Varian got their own character pages first given that Rapunzel is the main character.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/Tangled?from=Characters.TangledTheSeries

Edited by jessicadicicco610 on Feb 16th 2020 at 12:54:35 PM

I haven't been here for a while but the recent episode, "Flynnposter" was delightful and funny, but there's one thing I have an issue about.

I don't like the fact that Captain retired and put Eugene in charge of the Royal Guard. I think I'm just bothered how "Islands Apart" seemed to set up Captain being important or at least going to have a siginficant role with the whole "let's get my daughter back" line, only to have him basically sit out until now.