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TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Jan 6th 2020 at 8:30:33 AM

Wait, the doctor is supposed to be Cecilia Reyes?

If the cast of Sunspot wasn't enough, they just straight up erased one of the most prominent black latinas in comics.

Fuck this movie.

[up] Pump the hate brakes, Akira. Henry Zaga, who plays Sunspot in the movie, IS Brazilian.

Plus, I reckon the doctor is gonna get offed by the time the movie's done, so maybe they changed it to avoid Unfortunate Implications.

Also, holy cow, does Illyana's metal arm have some kind of magical version of nanotechnology going on? Because that was a cool effect.

Also, demon bear.

EDIT: Pagetopper

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 6th 2020 at 11:33:27 AM

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Akirakan Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Jan 6th 2020 at 8:41:59 AM

I know that he's Brazilian. The actress who plays Cecilia is also latina. But here we are talking about race, not ethnicity. They straight up casted the whitest Latinos to play prominent black latinos.

At least in the case of Sunspot, Marvel has been doing a terrible job with his handling and he constantly becomes whiter with time, so the filmmakers aren't entirely to blame, but in the case of Cecilia is just jarring, she has always been depicted as a black latina.

I'm also finding out they originally offered the role to Rosario Dawson, which would have been great, but then they ended casting a white latina instead when they couldn't get her.

Edited by Akirakan on Jan 6th 2020 at 11:44:23 AM

TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
Jan 6th 2020 at 8:58:26 AM

Ahhhh, I see now.

I mean the casting thing is on Old Fox's lap, but the whitening of Sunspot in the comics? I actually don't know what to say to that.

Hmmm. Maybe if the movie turns out well to some capacity, they can acknowledge it the same way the MCU acknowledges The Incredible Hulk while recasting as necessary?

I mean, going for the whitest Latinos feels like a deceptive trick...

But hey, if Kevin Feige really is hardcore-type, maybe he'll mandate Sunspot's true race now that he's Chief Creative Officer of Marvel in general?

Actually I'm really stumped...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 6th 2020 at 11:58:56 AM

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Jan 6th 2020 at 10:22:49 AM

Well itís definitely coming. And the only real question is ďwhy?Ē We know these character wonít be in the MCU because most of them aged out of the roles between production and release. We know the Fox Men ended with the equivalent of a wet fart thanks to Dark Phoenix.

This is essentially a really expensive Failed Pilot Episode. And itís not really their fault, but it was a movie designed to breath new life into a franchise, while the franchise had already been put to rest.

So here we are. But to be fair, the cast arenít to blame. They didnít know Disney was coming with all the money.

"That's right kid. Never play an ace when a two will do."
TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
Jan 6th 2020 at 10:59:59 AM

Well itís definitely coming. And the only real question is ďwhy?Ē We know these character wonít be in the MCU because most of them aged out of the roles between production and release. We know the Fox Men ended with the equivalent of a wet fart thanks to Dark Phoenix.

This is essentially a really expensive Failed Pilot Episode. And itís not really their fault, but it was a movie designed to breath new life into a franchise, while the franchise had already been put to rest.

I'm still not convinced this movie's doomed yet.

I mean, yeah, Disney kinda HAD to release it in some form out of contractual obligations, but they could have just plopped it onto Disney+ and pretend it never existed. Ergo, them keeping it in theaters has to mean they see something salvageable.

Plus, I already saw some positive buzz about Illyana and her Soulsword, so...

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Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Jan 6th 2020 at 11:03:47 AM

Test the waters for New Mutants in terms of the MCU.

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TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
Jan 6th 2020 at 11:06:33 AM

[up] Exactly. Thank you.

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Jan 6th 2020 at 11:19:42 AM

Movies can be standalone. It's not like everything has to be a trilogy or have a bazillion sequels.

Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Jan 6th 2020 at 1:22:09 PM

What I mean is they can gauge the reaction to these characters.

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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Jan 6th 2020 at 1:37:03 PM

Just the fact that they actually gave Illyana her Soulsword has me hyped.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Jan 6th 2020 at 4:00:05 PM

[up] Not really.

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slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
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Jan 6th 2020 at 4:00:36 PM

Well there is a good deal of production troubles.

So maybe.

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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Jan 6th 2020 at 4:03:46 PM

[up] There wasn't really any production troubles. The troubles were solely in post-production, with Fox asking for reshoots and then rescinding reshoots and then the merger happening and nobody knowing when the movie will come out.

The movie itself apparently went smoothly, unlike Fan4stic.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
miraculous "Impaler. I have no equal." from South Africa
"Impaler. I have no equal."
Jan 6th 2020 at 4:03:53 PM

It would take a true act of the devil for the film to go that badly.

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Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Jan 6th 2020 at 4:10:15 PM

Be careful. Satan, Mephisto and Chuck Austen are quite eager to jump someone.

Edited by Blueace on Jan 6th 2020 at 9:10:47 AM

TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Jan 6th 2020 at 4:45:25 PM

[up] Don't forget Mark Millar, an alleged licker of goats.

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miraculous "Impaler. I have no equal." from South Africa
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Jan 6th 2020 at 4:46:25 PM

[up]What do you mean by alleged ?[lol]

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Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Jan 6th 2020 at 4:53:33 PM

Or Ike Perlmutter. That one had it against the X.

TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Jan 6th 2020 at 6:21:43 PM

[up][up] Referencing this work of art.

(The cover of Warren Ellis' Nextwave issue 11, which had Machine Man holding a sign reading, of course, "Mark Millar Licks Goats.")

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Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Jan 7th 2020 at 10:10:55 PM

This movie can also show Disney how to do Joker movies that aren't connected to anything.

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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Jan 26th 2020 at 10:06:30 AM

They did a screening for the cast.

Also, this theatrical release poster is pretty frickin' awesome.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 26th 2020 at 10:09:28 AM

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Mar 1st 2020 at 8:57:03 AM

This slipped under the radar, didn't it?

The New Mutants is rated PG-13 for reasons unknown.

And with a runtime of one hour and 39 minutes, the movie also holds the distinction of being the shortest-running X-Men movie alongside being the last X-Men movie produced by the old Fox regime before the Disney/Fox buyout.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 1st 2020 at 11:57:31 AM

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TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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Mar 10th 2020 at 9:15:32 AM

Bump:

Yesterday, I went to a job fair and talked with someone who was ecstatic for The New Mutants. We came to an understanding that, as it is, The New Mutants is a standalone affair.

With that in mind, what would it take for Anya Taylor-Joy to be MCU!Magik?

I reckon there'd have to be special circumstances like:

  • The movie making some kind of bank, which may be tricky given how overdue it is.
  • The movie being liked by critics, which also might be tricky since they might burnt out on Fox mutants at this point.
  • General consensus including something like ATJ being one of, if not, the best part of the movie, hands down.
  • ATJ's schedule allowing her to come back to a role she did three years ago. Furthermore, she'd probably have to do it under a new contract under Marvel Studios since The New Mutants was an entirely Fox-made venture.

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