@49: Yeah, maybe. Your reasoning has logic to it. I'm just throwing that out, to see whether anything could be salvaged.
@50 & 51: I think a "Show Some Shoulder" trope (in the vein of Show Some Leg and Zettai Ryouiki) could probably work.
Can we stop cutting tropes willy nilly?
Like, I'm mainly complaining here because this will be the second time this month that a Trope Pantheons ascension prospect will be canned because their trope was cut. You're basically ruining fun for quite a few people on the wiki (myself included), and making it feel that they wasted time working on a profile entry just for the trope they're being ascended for to be cut.
It says "What would be the best way to fix the page?" not "Let's cut the trope because why not?"
Figure out a way to fix it instead of cutting it. Seriously people, it's not that hard. It's a Costume Tropes, most of them have Zero Content Examples because they're mainly for describing clothing.
edited 25th Aug '15 11:35:25 PM by BlackSunNocturne
This page is being cut because it's not a trope. A piece of clothing is not by default a trope, and the arguments forthcoming have not been convincing - and the fix for things of no tropability is cutting. Please also take note that being widely used often indicates widespread incorrect usage.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe Pantheon is also Just for Fun and should not have any bearing on wiki policy. If you guys want to avoid having to delete stuff you just wrote up, maybe scrutinize your process so things like this don't get deities.
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Let's not use misleading arguments when there are better ones. Widespread use doesn't indicate anything other than that tropers edit it in in a lot of pages. Says absolutely nothing about how correct it is or isn't.
I really wish I was good at argument and reason because I truly believe that this trope is worthy. I mean, it's a costume trope, there's plenty example of it.
Also, Going by this, Detached Sleeves would still be a trope. Or I'm reading it wrong.
edited 26th Aug '15 6:20:48 AM by WhirlRX
Just because something is common doesn't mean it's a trope. It needs to have some sort of meaning. If Detached Sleeves were commonly used to indicate a character archetype or had some sort of symbolism or something, that would be a trope. Otherwise, it's just a thing that happens often.
Having a lot of examples doesn't make a page a "trope". If People Sit On Chairs was a trope, there's going to be a lot of examples, too.
So why don't we just cutlist every single clothing trope since that's clearly what you're attempting to do?
edited 26th Aug '15 12:32:22 PM by BlackSunNocturne
You know, you sound a lot more reasonable if you ask for the procedure straigthaway instead of first offering up a strawman.
The discussion is here
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Crown Description:
What would be the best way to fix the page?

"Sleeves that are barely attached to a dress" and "Indecent shoulder exposure" are not the same thing, even if they share superficial elements.
Tropes have meaning; a convention is a shorthand that explains something to the audience faster than a detailed essay. Personal Appearance Tropes tend to be stocked with the superficial details instead of the implied meaning behind them. This is why many are being purged.
edited 14th Aug '15 10:28:04 AM by crazysamaritan
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.