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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#176: Jun 8th 2017 at 5:18:21 AM

Haven't read the novels too, but I know Evilus is a cult of sorts. Their god is Thanatos, I think? Or I might be thinking of another bad guy posse.

[up][up] Really should get to reading the manga...

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#177: Jun 8th 2017 at 5:31:48 AM

All the wiki says is that Evilus was an alliance of familia whose gods claimed to be evil and that Thanatos Familia is the only member of the alliance left.

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#178: Jun 8th 2017 at 7:21:24 AM

Evilus was an alliance of Evil gods that caused trouble. After the massacre they got kicked back to heavens as a punishment.

[up][up]You really should. The anime is really crappy compared to manga.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#179: Jun 8th 2017 at 6:58:17 PM

[up] Official novel translations are only up to Volume 2 is the problem.

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King of Burgers
#180: Jun 10th 2017 at 4:43:46 PM

Episode out:

Oh hey look, we get to hear some of Aiz inner monologue.

Oh god, Belll run straight into Aiz... buns.

Seeing Lefiya get repedetly smmacked by Aiz was fun.

Rivera is such a mom. [lol]

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#181: Jun 10th 2017 at 5:07:53 PM

[up] Yes, yes she is.

In other news, hi Tsubaki! Not willing to wait for a second season of the main series?

Also, I need a sanity check. I've been getting shipping urges for Loki x Riveria. Can anyone else see the potential or am I just completely off my rocker this time round.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#182: Jun 10th 2017 at 11:23:34 PM

You're crazy, but that's okay, all the best shippers are.

Lefiya is a lot more entertaining now that she's become a crazy Aiz fangirl. And Filvis fangirl. Yeah.

[up][up] That scene where Bell runs into Aiz's behind is something they actually pulled from the main anime.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#183: Jun 14th 2017 at 8:32:30 AM

Read the Sword Oratoria manga up to the part where the anime is right now. Some general thoughts:

  • There's about the same amount of focus on Lefiya as there is in the anime, but the manga balances it out by giving more screentime for Ais too. Also means there's more cute moments for the Sword Princess which is a big plus.
  • The fight scenes are a damn sight better. For one, it's a lot more visceral and dynamic, with people actually getting skewered and bones getting broken. Choreography is on point too— Finn's spear technique is legit cool and I wish the anime showed that.
    • On the subject of fight scenes: the Udaeus fight is better in the manga but still disappointing overall, boiling down to Time to Unlock More True Potential.
    • And not just Finn, everyone has better showings when it comes to combat.
  • One thing I was glad got cut was those adventurers bitching about the Loki Familia not saving them, or something like that? It was a bit too heavy-handed, would have worked better if it wasn't taking place in a pub, or if it was like a small crew instead of every single customer being up in arms.
  • Little thing in reference to above [up]: in the manga Bell crashed into Ais's chest instead of her butt.

edited 14th Jun '17 8:33:59 AM by fillerdude

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#184: Jun 17th 2017 at 8:21:11 AM

Episode 10: Happens in around the same time the best episode of original Dan Machi takes place. And they know it because they crib a lot from that episode.

Interesting that they made Ottar physically try and stop Ais from reaching Bell.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#185: Jun 17th 2017 at 5:02:04 PM

Ottar is such a terrible liar. [lol]

It's funny how they are trying to have a serious plot, and then Freya comes in with her stupid antics.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#186: Jun 17th 2017 at 5:34:55 PM

[up][up] This isn't the first time. They intercut footage from the main series when Aiz hit level six when Eina was visiting Loki Familia. I think they intercut some footage from Bell training with Aiz as well. You can tell because the Sword Oratoria is using a slightly more pastel colour palette.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#187: Jun 17th 2017 at 11:37:04 PM

[up] I know. Just pointing out that this episode had the most stuff from the main series, especially the Minotaur fight.

SamCurt Since: Jan, 2001
#188: Jun 18th 2017 at 7:12:39 PM

I want to confirm something here. Does the part about Filvis last episode (i.e. 9) appear in the manga? There're already other tropers list her as Ambiguously Gay on the character list, but I'm not the most sure.

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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#189: Jun 18th 2017 at 7:26:06 PM

If you mean the part where Hermes talks about how Filvis warmed up to Lefiya, or the part where they train Concurrent Chanting, then yeah, those were in the manga. Or if you're talking how Lefiya has ambiguous hots for girls, then yeah that's a thing in the manga.

SamCurt Since: Jan, 2001
#190: Jun 18th 2017 at 8:50:26 PM

[up]
My main question is whether any interactions between Lefiya and Filvis animated in Episode 9 can be seen in Les Yay in the manga. Lefiya is obviously Type-S, but Filvis is supposedly older.

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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#191: Jun 19th 2017 at 1:48:36 AM

Not sure by what you mean by "seen in Les Yay", but yeah, that scene's the same in the manga.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#192: Jun 19th 2017 at 4:11:35 AM

[up] I think that was supposed to be "seen as Les Yay", but that's a guess.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#194: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:43:46 PM

Episode out:

Everyone sure got motivated.

Dragons, dragons everywhere. The lower levels really are hardcore.

Well, it seems we'll finally learn what's the deal with the Spirits.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#195: Jun 24th 2017 at 5:35:55 PM

Judging by the comments of no-one being that deep since the days of Zeus Familia, I'm assuming Freya Familia (who has the one and only Level 8 in Orario) don't dungeon crawl as much as Loki Familia. At least not in the big, organised expeditions needed to make it that deep into the dungeon.

That being said, we don't know much about the level distribution of Freya Familia. We know Ottar is level 8 and the seventh novel mentioned she had a bunch higher level fighters (the ones who fought Phyrne) but I can't remember if they were level 5 or Level 6.

Also I've been thinking. If, as the side story has been suggesting, that Bell and Aiz are in fact long lost siblings, then Loki, Leyfia, Bete, Hestia, Lily and Haruhime are all going to throw a big party.

Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#196: Jun 24th 2017 at 6:07:44 PM

[up]

Ottar's Level 7, not Level 8. No one in history has ever reached Level 8, and there have only ever been 2 people that reached Level 7, including Ottar.

Freya has 3 Level 6 and 4 Level 5 adventurers.

And there's pretty much no way that Ais and Bell are related, considering what we know about Ais's past so far.

edited 24th Jun '17 6:10:07 PM by Chaosjunction

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#197: Jun 24th 2017 at 8:55:06 PM

[up] Really? Given how Aiz's memory of her father has him as more or less and older, tallker, non-albino Bell?

Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#198: Jun 24th 2017 at 10:05:32 PM

[up]

Ais was actually born 1000 years ago and her dad is a legendary hero from back then, while her mother is a Spirit. So it's pretty impossible for Bell to be her brother.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#199: Jun 25th 2017 at 12:03:54 AM

Random thought that I posted in the Wild Mass Guessing section

We're going to see all the Olympian gods show up eventually. Between flashbacks, the main story and the side story, we've seen nearly half of them already, plus Ouranos. So the rest are sure to show up sooner or later.

Seen: Hestia, Hermes, Hepheastus, Apollo, Ares, Diyonisus, Demeter, Zeus (sort of in Bell's flashbacks and Good Angel/ Bad Angel moment)

Referenced but not seen: Hera

Unseen and unmentioned (as of Volume 8 and Gaiden Anime): Artemis, Athena, Poseidon and Hades

Also, anyone got any thoughts on why the author seems to be focussing so much on the Greeks. He's clearly done some research given Ishtar and two of the lesser known members of the Tuatha de Dannan (Michah and Gobinu) showing up.

Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#200: Jun 25th 2017 at 12:14:45 AM

The Greek gods are the most well known deities, there's probably no reason other than that.


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