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Becuase the amount of Live Action remake threads are getting cluttery, I made this thread so people could discuss all of them in one neat place. For ease of catching up, I'll post all the Live action Disney movies we have and the movies that will be coming soon.

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edited 15th Jul '17 2:12:16 PM by VeryMelon

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#351: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:21:10 PM

Opinions on Hercules are mixed on TVT from my experience.

Personally I like it in spite of it being not a great representation of greek myths but I don't blame anyone for disliking it because of that or anything.

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#352: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:34:02 PM

Maybe Disney's live-action Hercules will take cues from those 60s Italian Sword and Sandal Hercules movies.

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#353: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:36:57 PM

Or perhaps they could go for a more consistently humor-based approach, akin to what the original film was trying to do.

Studios try to resuscitate Greek myth every couple of years or so; why not parody the hell out of those kind of films?

edited 2nd Nov '16 2:37:51 PM by Aldo930

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#354: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:39:48 PM

My biggest issue with it is that it's tonally and thematically all over the place. It goes from quite dark to almost slapstick comedy really fast and the transition are not handled well. It's jarring. Also the film cannot seem to settle on what it's message is either. Plus it looks like someone made a checklist of "stuff that's popular" and then tried to cram as much of it into the film as possible. Then there are plot-holes/unexplained and questionable moments, etc.

Also it suffers from the classic "the villain is far more entertaining than the hero" syndrome. And even Megara is a more interesting character than Hercules himself is.

I don't think that it's flat-out BAD so much as it's, really messy. When it's good though, it can be really good. But it's definitely one of the weaker 90's Disney animated films imo.

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#355: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:42:48 PM

Clements and Musker admitted they chose Hercules mainly to get to make Treasure Planet, and it shows.

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#356: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:52:44 PM

It just occurred to me - now that they're remaking Snow White, is that godforsakenly bad Rose Red idea going by the wayside?

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#357: Nov 2nd 2016 at 4:16:42 PM

Don't EVER read the Amazon reviews on the Hercules home release. They tore my heart out and I spent the next 24 hours completely depressed.

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#358: Nov 2nd 2016 at 4:18:54 PM

Part one of Don Quixote is comedy. Part two, written 10 years later, is not. In the interim, Cervantes apparently developed a lot more sympathy for his character.

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#360: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:20:39 PM

Personally I like it in spite of it being not a great representation of greek myths but I don't blame anyone for disliking it because of that or anything.
It's a tiny bit more accurate to the myths than people give it credit for (the climax with the Titans is actually a combination of two separate myth events and the 12 Labors are referenced in the "Zero to Hero" montage), and if it's any consolation the TV show it spawned drew from Greek mythology constantly.

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#361: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:25:48 PM

[up] I assume those two myths are the Titanomachy & the Gigantomachy?

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#362: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:27:28 PM

[up][up][up][up] Well, the book had become wildly popular and even spawned a fanfiction "sequel" of sorts. Needless to say, Cervantes had to respond to it.

There have been people who've done serious takes on Don Quixote before, but generally they had something to say or a new take on the novel. Take Man of La Mancha, which had Don Quixote representing idealism in a cynical world - dreaming the impossible dream, that is.

This, however... this is a blockbuster. Blockbusters generally don't make you think, they appeal to more visceral senses.

I wonder, who exactly is this idea made for? Anyone who wants to see a film version of Don Quixote will just want to see a movie version of the book. People who want to see a blockbuster, POTC-style film are going to be confused as to why Don Quixote.

[up] (Slightly off-topic, but perhaps Hollywood could do something more with other mythologies? Norse mythos? Celtic mythos? Gaulish mythos?)

edited 2nd Nov '16 6:29:07 PM by Aldo930

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#363: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:30:56 PM

[up] Marvel's Thor films are fairly close to the original Norse myths.

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#364: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:31:04 PM

[up]x3 Yes.

[up]x2 Technically we've gotten some Norse recently with Marvel stuff.

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edited 2nd Nov '16 6:31:21 PM by Karxrida

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#365: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:33:43 PM

How about some Norse mythos other than Marvel, of course, which doesn't quite count, being based off the superhero and not the actual myths.

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#367: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:37:03 PM

Not to mention that the films are fairly close to the myths (definitely not identical, but probably closer than Hercules is).

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#368: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:38:32 PM

The superhero is loosely based on the myths and the movie is loosely based on the superhero, so that's two degrees of looseness.

FUN FACT: Did you know that in Norse myth, Loki is Odin's brother, not Thor's?

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#369: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:43:21 PM

[up] Not to mention that Sif is Thor's wife.

edited 2nd Nov '16 6:48:02 PM by Spinosegnosaurus77

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#370: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:47:47 PM

Mjolnir's most distinguishing feature is that it has an abnormally short handle, which is a crafting mistake caused by Loki transforming into a fly and biting the dwarf who forged it in the eyelid. He had to take his hand off the bellows to wipe blood out of his eye, and that caused the hammer to come out with an unusually short handle.

edited 2nd Nov '16 6:48:23 PM by TobiasDrake

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#371: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:50:32 PM

Loki is also Sleipnir's mother. Yes, mother.

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#372: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:55:16 PM

By Mother Hulda's bedsheets... the Thor films should not have to count as Hollywood films based on Norse mythos.

They are films based on a superhero based on Norse mythos. They do not count as genuine takes on the Norse mythos. We deserve something genuinely based on the old Norse myths.

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#373: Nov 2nd 2016 at 7:03:46 PM

Films can be multiple levels of adaptation and genre. O Brother, Where Are Thou is a Christian spiritual road trip retelling of The Odyssey.

edited 2nd Nov '16 7:04:10 PM by Tuckerscreator

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#374: Nov 2nd 2016 at 7:59:24 PM

My mythology professor actually really likes Hercules and plays it in class to show how myths are not owned by anyone and can be changed and reinterpreted to fit new audiences and purposes.

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#375: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:17:38 AM

He's not wrong, mind you. But that doesn't make it a good adaptation.

Like, I could write a Superman movie where Superman is a demon sent by Bat-Satan to terrorize the Earth, and only Lex Luthor can save us through the power of humanism.

It'd be a piece of shit, nobody would like it, and it'd almost certainly never get greenlit. But I could. If the best defense he has for Disney's Hercules is that it's not technically impossible for it to exist, that's not exactly a roaring endorsement.

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