Becuase the amount of Live Action remake threads are getting cluttery, I made this thread so people could discuss all of them in one neat place. For ease of catching up, I'll post all the Live action Disney movies we have and the movies that will be coming soon.
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- Beauty and the Beast
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- Winnie the Pooh
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- Dumbo
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- Mulan
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- Pinocchio
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- Night on Bald Mountain from "Fantasia"
- Maleficent sequel
- Prince Charming
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- Aladdin prequel: Genies
- Sword in the Stone
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edited 15th Jul '17 2:12:16 PM by VeryMelon
Maybe Disney's live-action Hercules will take cues from those 60s Italian Sword and Sandal Hercules movies.
Or perhaps they could go for a more consistently humor-based approach, akin to what the original film was trying to do.
Studios try to resuscitate Greek myth every couple of years or so; why not parody the hell out of those kind of films?
edited 2nd Nov '16 2:37:51 PM by Aldo930
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."My biggest issue with it is that it's tonally and thematically all over the place. It goes from quite dark to almost slapstick comedy really fast and the transition are not handled well. It's jarring. Also the film cannot seem to settle on what it's message is either. Plus it looks like someone made a checklist of "stuff that's popular" and then tried to cram as much of it into the film as possible. Then there are plot-holes/unexplained and questionable moments, etc.
Also it suffers from the classic "the villain is far more entertaining than the hero" syndrome. And even Megara is a more interesting character than Hercules himself is.
I don't think that it's flat-out BAD so much as it's, really messy. When it's good though, it can be really good. But it's definitely one of the weaker 90's Disney animated films imo.
Clements and Musker admitted
they chose Hercules mainly to get to make Treasure Planet, and it shows.
I assume those two myths are the Titanomachy & the Gigantomachy?
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Well, the book had become wildly popular and even spawned a fanfiction "sequel" of sorts. Needless to say, Cervantes had to respond to it.
There have been people who've done serious takes on Don Quixote before, but generally they had something to say or a new take on the novel. Take Man of La Mancha, which had Don Quixote representing idealism in a cynical world - dreaming the impossible dream, that is.
This, however... this is a blockbuster. Blockbusters generally don't make you think, they appeal to more visceral senses.
I wonder, who exactly is this idea made for? Anyone who wants to see a film version of Don Quixote will just want to see a movie version of the book. People who want to see a blockbuster, POTC-style film are going to be confused as to why Don Quixote.
(Slightly off-topic, but perhaps Hollywood could do something more with other mythologies? Norse mythos? Celtic mythos? Gaulish mythos?)
edited 2nd Nov '16 6:29:07 PM by Aldo930
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Marvel's Thor films are fairly close to the original Norse myths.
Not to mention that the films are fairly close to the myths (definitely not identical, but probably closer than Hercules is).
Peace is the only battle worth waging.The superhero is loosely based on the myths and the movie is loosely based on the superhero, so that's two degrees of looseness.
FUN FACT: Did you know that in Norse myth, Loki is Odin's brother, not Thor's?
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Not to mention that Sif is Thor's wife.
edited 2nd Nov '16 6:48:02 PM by Spinosegnosaurus77
Peace is the only battle worth waging.Mjolnir's most distinguishing feature is that it has an abnormally short handle, which is a crafting mistake caused by Loki transforming into a fly and biting the dwarf who forged it in the eyelid. He had to take his hand off the bellows to wipe blood out of his eye, and that caused the hammer to come out with an unusually short handle.
edited 2nd Nov '16 6:48:23 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.By Mother Hulda's bedsheets... the Thor films should not have to count as Hollywood films based on Norse mythos.
They are films based on a superhero based on Norse mythos. They do not count as genuine takes on the Norse mythos. We deserve something genuinely based on the old Norse myths.
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."My mythology professor actually really likes Hercules and plays it in class to show how myths are not owned by anyone and can be changed and reinterpreted to fit new audiences and purposes.
This song needs more love.He's not wrong, mind you. But that doesn't make it a good adaptation.
Like, I could write a Superman movie where Superman is a demon sent by Bat-Satan to terrorize the Earth, and only Lex Luthor can save us through the power of humanism.
It'd be a piece of shit, nobody would like it, and it'd almost certainly never get greenlit. But I could. If the best defense he has for Disney's Hercules is that it's not technically impossible for it to exist, that's not exactly a roaring endorsement.
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Opinions on Hercules are mixed on TVT from my experience.
Personally I like it in spite of it being not a great representation of greek myths but I don't blame anyone for disliking it because of that or anything.