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Weirdguy149 The sleeping royal from Galar Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The sleeping royal
Feb 21st 2020 at 4:20:10 PM

Also, the beginning of Hunchback of Notre Dame where Frollo kills a woman onscreen then outright tries to drown her child. If it wasn't for a religious guilt trip, he would have actually done it.

I say, fitting time for a nap, eh what?
Brandon Fan of Summer (actress, not the season) Relationship Status: I want you to want me
Fan of Summer (actress, not the season)
Feb 21st 2020 at 4:58:47 PM

Suddenly reminded that Hunchback showed a dead human body (Quasi's mother).

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Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Feb 21st 2020 at 5:00:49 PM

The Hunchback just didn't feel like a kids movie at all.

Edited by Blueace on Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:36:50 AM

eagleoftheninth Just stay away and you'll be safe from me. from a kingdom of self-isolation Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Just stay away and you'll be safe from me.
Feb 21st 2020 at 5:38:16 PM

The comic relief gargoyles make for a huge Mood Whiplash unless you see them as Quasimodo's imaginary friends (which I do).

Disney has no problem with dark stuff. It's just that the original story is bleak in a way that no Disney movie really is.

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BrightLight Cool Big Bro from The Southern Water Tribe
Cool Big Bro
Feb 22nd 2020 at 12:28:46 AM

That doll from Mulan was definitely all but saying that the child that it belonged to had perished at the hands of the Huns, along with her entire village.


since showing actual dead children in a Disney film would traumatize audiences across the world.

I think that's a content dilemma with any family film, animated or not.

I wish it wouldn't be though, since some of the most hardcore stories, myths, legends and fairy tales have child casualties in them.

InkDagger Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Feb 22nd 2020 at 9:49:54 AM

Or just casualties period.

Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
◕ Disasturbator
Feb 22nd 2020 at 10:36:31 AM

> I wish it wouldn't be though, since some of the most hardcore stories, myths, legends and fairy tales have child casualties in them.

Showing dead/injured children would push the age rating up significantly,it's therefore unnecessary to show it when you can imply it,a child's doll is widely recognised as a stand in for the representing a child.

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chasemaddigan Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?
Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?
Feb 22nd 2020 at 10:51:51 AM

Hell, we have a whole trope dedicated to this type of thing, Empathy Doll Shot.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Feb 22nd 2020 at 1:54:35 PM

BrightLight Cool Big Bro from The Southern Water Tribe
Cool Big Bro
Feb 22nd 2020 at 3:51:28 PM

But as long as it's not human children, it's A-OK?

(I just never understood that sort of loophole.)

Maybe that's the answer then. Don't make it human children as the casualties then, if the story needs one.

That would also probably help break the anthropomorphic ghetto as well.

Edited by BrightLight on Feb 23rd 2020 at 12:52:24 AM

Feb 22nd 2020 at 4:10:47 PM

I was going to bring up Empathy Doll Shot. It's pretty clear that everybody got killed, including the children.

As for the PG-13 rating, Mulan is the only one of the Disney Princess franchise to officially have killed hundreds of people.

Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
◕ Disasturbator
Feb 22nd 2020 at 4:13:23 PM

> As for the PG-13 rating, Mulan is the only one of the Disney Princess franchise to officially have killed hundreds of people.

With fireworks!

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slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 22nd 2020 at 4:13:53 PM

Like in Sly Cooper.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Weirdguy149 The sleeping royal from Galar Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The sleeping royal
Feb 22nd 2020 at 8:14:22 PM

Let's see...

  • Snow White- God (I guess) killed the Evil Queen and no one else died, so she killed nobody.
  • Cinderella- Nobody died.
  • Aurora- She was asleep the whole time murder was happening, so she killed nobody.
  • Ariel- Eric killed Ursula and her schmoopies, so she killed nobody.
  • Belle- Gaston killed himself and no one else died, so she killed nobody.
  • Jasmine- Jafar was immortal and Aladdin defeated him, so she killed nobody.
  • Pocahontas- Nobody died on the enemy's side.
  • Mulan- She singlehandedly killed an army.
  • Tiana- She technically was the one who killed Facilier since she broke the talisman keeping the Friends from killing him.
  • Rapunzel- Flynn and Pascal double-teamed to kill Gothel, so she killed nobody.
  • Merida- She gave Mor'du a mercy kill.
  • Anna and/or Elsa- ...Well, that blizzard had to have killed somebody, at least.
  • Moana- Nobody dies except for her grandma, and even then, she dies of old age.

I say, fitting time for a nap, eh what?
Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Feb 22nd 2020 at 8:21:47 PM

Leia: Commandered the assaults on two Death Stars and the Starkiller, among numerous other skirmishes, giving her a kill count in the planetary range. [lol]

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 22nd 2020 at 8:27:37 AM

“If your good mood was ruined because you got into an accident with a car...”
Feb 22nd 2020 at 8:23:52 PM

Seems like Disney usually reserves the killing for male heroes. Eric is the one who kills Ursula even though Ariel is the main protagonist and Flik lures Hopper to a bird's nest where he is killed. Even some of the "accidental" villain deaths are a result of male characters like the Beast throwing off Gaston's balance after being stabbed and the dwarfs chasing the evil queen to the edge of the cliff.

Brandon Fan of Summer (actress, not the season) Relationship Status: I want you to want me
Fan of Summer (actress, not the season)
Feb 22nd 2020 at 10:46:20 PM

The Black Cauldron: Nobody kills the villain. He's done in just for thoughtlessly walking too close to the cauldron and gets sucked in.

Not really a contribution to the discussion but thought I'd mention it cause it's funny to me.

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Zarius Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
Feb 25th 2020 at 1:46:24 PM

Bob Iger steps down as CEO replacing him is Disney theme park chairman Bob Chappek

Edited by Zarius on Feb 25th 2020 at 1:49:05 AM

Spottedleaf The Ice Queen from The J.L.A. Sanctuary Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Ice Queen
Feb 25th 2020 at 2:05:03 PM

So is Mulan the only Disney princess who's confirmed to have a body count?

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InkDagger Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Feb 25th 2020 at 8:24:06 PM

I'd wager Elsa does, if unintentionally.

eagleoftheninth Just stay away and you'll be safe from me. from a kingdom of self-isolation Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Just stay away and you'll be safe from me.
Feb 25th 2020 at 8:27:57 PM

If you want to count Esmeralda, there's no way she hasn't shivved a sucker or a dozen in the past.

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InkDagger Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Feb 25th 2020 at 8:55:29 PM

Debatable. Her escape from the Feast was probably as non-lethal as she could be.

Musical!Esmerelda I'd say yes to. Movie version, probably not.

Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Feb 26th 2020 at 6:30:01 AM

At the very least, the biggest intentional body count in record among them.

Mar 1st 2020 at 11:11:56 AM

For the films where bad guys die usually the prince does the deed (Eric in The Little Mermaid taking out Ursula; Phillip in Sleeping Beauty taking out Maleficent), or else it's a Self-Disposing Villain like the Evil Queen in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs or Gaston in Beauty and the Beast.

Brandon Fan of Summer (actress, not the season) Relationship Status: I want you to want me
Fan of Summer (actress, not the season)
Mar 1st 2020 at 1:56:07 PM

[up] Linda Larkin would argue that Aurora was asleep (due to the title being Sleeping Beauty), and ergo wouldn't be able to fight Mellificent.

Speaking of Eric taking out Ursula, I always found it funny that Eric just get zonked out twice in the film. Once after his ship explodes, and Ariel has to save him, and then just passes out after taking out Ursula.

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Mar 1st 2020 at 2:13:20 PM

The Disney Princess video game had Aurora use the fairies' wand against Maleficent, among other cool stuff.

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