Follow TV Tropes
Man, both Shenzi and Nala & lionesses being upgraded was one of the single best changes done in Disney remakes. Not only it makes the narrative feel more balanced, it's a rare case where things make sense in biological level.
I always assumed Shenzi was a high-ranking hyena, but I assumed she was at most the daughter of the leader. Her outright being the matriarch is something.
In the original, or in the remake?
PG-13 rating for Mulan.
Sounds reasonable. Pg 13 films also aren't really affected by the box office due to their rating as well.
Mulan drops an f-bomb confirmed.
Nah instead, it shows younglings getting slaughtered.
She killed them all. Not just the men but women and children too.
You were the chosen one!You supposed to get down to business to defeat the huns not join them!
And yet Attack of the Clones still got a PG.
Mulan did definitely feel like a borderline PG movie with the corpses from the village attack and the hordes of Huns dying from the avalanche. So it's not too surprising for the live action Mulan to have a PG-13.
PG-13? Maybe it'll have blood like Maleficent 2 did.
In the original. She seemed too goofy to be the leader of the hyenas, but I always figured she was important in the cackle.
Well that is how the Hyena hierarchy works.
The women are in charge & the men are pretty much collectively the bottom, both figuratively & literally.
I thought Shenzi was the least goofy of the three in the 1994 film.
There are hints that she's at least dominant over Banzai and Ed. She's generally leading them in front (especially when they first appear in the film), directs them in the Wildebeest chase, Banzai and Ed are more prone to fighting each other, but nobody takes a dig at Shenzi. And in the original script (which is somewhere online), she's shown alerting the other hyenas about Scar throwing them under bus (in the film, they just all show up when Scar falls to the bottom of Pride Rock).
Edited by Brandon on Feb 20th 2020 at 6:20:00 AM
I don't recall any corpses being shown on screen. Do you have an image by any chance?
They appear, but very very briefly. Like for three frames before the shot cuts to the heroes looking horrified.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 20th 2020 at 8:41:46 AM
It's when the protagonists see that the rest of their army has been slaughtered in the burning village scene.
I meant that Shenzi was goofy seeming compared to the background hyena during "Be Prepared". She's definitely more serious than Ed and Banzai, and is obviously dominant (which is a given since she's female), but I never thought of her as the head of the cackle.
The franchise suffers from a lack of hyenas. The Lion Guard is the most we've gotten in terms of worldbuilding for hyenas (and even then, it portrays hyenas inaccurately).
Mulan had the child's doll and that is saddest ever ever
I've never understood whether the doll signifies child death or whether it's just sad that the kid dropped her doll (and lost her home) while escaping. I assumed the latter as a kid, but the former seems more likely.
Edited by Pichu-kun on Feb 21st 2020 at 8:14:59 AM
I assume the child perished
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
It's ambiguous enough to get by the censors since showing actual dead children in a Disney film would traumatize audiences across the world.
Edited by Shadao on Feb 21st 2020 at 9:27:59 AM
Meanwhile, Tarzan opened with a baby gorilla being eaten alive by a leopard and we heard its dying screams.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Feb 21st 2020 at 12:48:52 PM
Not human, doesn't count.
Pretty sure the child died. Visual storytelling, that's how you'd do it without saying it. "Oops, I dropped it while running away" isn't nearly sad enough. Plus we explicitly saw Shan Yu saying he wanted to personally return it to her. It's not hard to figure out what the implication is of him returning it to her...
Edited by InkDagger on Feb 21st 2020 at 3:11:00 AM
Community Showcase More
How well does it match the trope?