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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#151: Jun 2nd 2015 at 6:04:39 PM

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Also it serves to highlight something Shuichi, of all people, commented on: that there's something off to Asuka.

Muphrid Relativistic physicist from Constellation Bootes Since: May, 2010
Relativistic physicist
#152: Jun 2nd 2015 at 6:33:13 PM

I can't say I'm surprised she acted that way (even though it's the first we've seen of it). Definitely got the vibe that there's a reason she couldn't lead: Asuka is single-minded about music to the exclusion of all else. Remember last episode? She said the euphonium was her only love. At best, I think she can fake leadership for a short time, when her drive to make music is needed, but for other things? You get what we saw here. She's not gonna be happy, and she won't hesitate to let people know it.

Author of The Second Coming (NGE) and The Coin (Haruhi).
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#153: Jun 2nd 2015 at 9:22:47 PM

Cool that the novel and the anime are doing their own thing.

I can really feel for those who failed. And it really seems the whole band did try.

It's bitter.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#154: Jun 2nd 2015 at 11:40:59 PM

I keep getting hung up on this part:

Hazuki: At school, you looked upset when I talked to Tsukamoto.

Kumiko: No no, that wasn't a like thing, as much as a "you might take one of my friends" thing.

Okay 1), what is Hazuki talking about? The only time she looked upset (to me) is after Hazuki left. 2), Where does the concern about "losing" Shuichi come from? How does it follow from what we've seen up till now?

HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#155: Jun 2nd 2015 at 11:49:05 PM

[up] We're not shown every single second they spend at school, so it's possible it might be referring to some point offscreen. As for the second part, the exact wording she used was "my friend might be taken away"; who the "friend" is and who's doing the taking are pretty much omitted, so it could have been that she meant one of the girls (i.e. Hazuki) might be "taken" by Shuuichi and the three girls couldn't really hang out together any more.

edited 2nd Jun '15 11:49:25 PM by HanabiraKage

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#156: Jun 3rd 2015 at 6:52:57 AM

I just have to say while I would like Kumiko and Reina to end up together, andIi agree that whether intentional or not Kyo Ani has concentrated more on this relationship than the alternative, I can see it isn’t happening. I think I would much rather Kumiko winds up with no one. There is no rule that says a highschooler has to be in a relationship. Hell, given how confused she is right now, not to mention busy, it would be the mature and responsible thing to do.

If Shuuichi had actually had some development and wasn’t similar to a piece of cardboard, if that piece of cardboard had had a childhood friend it had hurt and embarrassed back in middle school, I probably would be a bit more supportive of him and Kumiko getting together. But, between his little to no characterization and my hatred of the childhood friend trope in general I really would rather Kumiko remain single.

I also want to bring up it kind of rubs the wrong way with Shuuichi too because kind of like at the beginning of the anime she was set to be independent and make all these changes but ended up forcibly pushed back into the situation she was in. This feels like everyone is telling her, “you secretly have feeling for this boy,” and she is again being pushed into a situation. That’s at least what it looks like.

majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157: Jun 3rd 2015 at 11:38:44 AM

Honestly, if it turns out that Hazuki's "Oh, so you don't know your own feelings, huh?" was just her being kind of a shithead because she's a teenager that got rejected, it'd be pretty refreshing.

andIi agree that whether intentional or not Kyo Ani has concentrated more on this relationship than the alternative

Well, yeah, it's intentional. You can't really have this kind of focus on a character without some kind of decision being made from the start of production.

Speaking of, check out the differences in framing between the scenes with Kumiko and Reina and Kumiko and Shuchi. Intimacy and closeness vs separation and distance. Yay for good direction.

edited 3rd Jun '15 12:04:09 PM by majoraoftime

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#158: Jun 3rd 2015 at 12:04:57 PM

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Indeed. I think a blog actually mentioned that it may turn out that Kumiko and Reina are actually soulmates, but they can still get romantically involved with other people. 'Tis a common thing in fiction after all. What's important is that they know they share a connection, and sometimes that's enough.

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Also, it's really informative to read the (translated) comments of the Kyo Ani production staff every episode. See the art director's musing on episode 8 that she wanted to watch that particular scene over and over again, because it was so beautiful.

Episode 9's posts too, as the staff is apparently well-aware of what they're doing, with regards to relationship teasing... and they're having a whole lot of fun doing so.

edited 3rd Jun '15 12:06:38 PM by MyssaRei

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#159: Jun 3rd 2015 at 1:41:51 PM

[up] Where can you see the production staff's comments?

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#160: Jun 3rd 2015 at 2:31:00 PM

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I can't access it here at the office, but I think Kazukun has the actual link. They've been doing this since around Chuunibyou (or even earlier), mind, so I'm surprised few people actually know of this.

HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#161: Jun 3rd 2015 at 5:57:19 PM

[up]&[up][up] I think it's this one. It's in Japanese though (obviously).

edited 3rd Jun '15 5:57:55 PM by HanabiraKage

HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#162: Jun 4th 2015 at 5:33:04 AM

Just so you know, the real best girl did make the cut, so I think we should be celebrating that.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#163: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:10:56 AM

Well yeah. Why wouldn't Reina make the cut?

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#164: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:22:56 AM

I don't think there was a single surprising thing about the results of the audition, but they did a good job of conveying Kumiko's tension anyway, despite it being a forgone conclusion.

HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#165: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:11:47 PM

[up][up]I'm talking about this little angel in the bottom right corner. I'm so proud of her.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
PhysicalStamina ain't nothin' but a party y'all (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
ain't nothin' but a party y'all
#166: Jun 5th 2015 at 5:04:18 AM

Who, cactusberry? She did do a good job, I guess.

Do not spare the feelings of those who would not spare yours.
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#167: Jun 5th 2015 at 5:44:46 AM

She did good too, yeah.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168: Jun 9th 2015 at 1:17:07 PM

Natsuki's a fucking gem.

The bit where Kumiko empties her spit valve reminded me of Whiplash where a dude does the same and a fucking waterfall gushes out.

"I'm going home, though." Taki-sensei's also a gem.

Jesus christ ribbon hair girl is a dick. Spelling out sempai's failure in front of the entire band. The Worst Kouhai.

Yess shitbug Reina

"Straight trumpet" hahaha.

Ooh, we're getting a little mystery with Asuka's character.

Lol, Kousaka's gonna get rekt, no one likes her.

This episode felt very... comfortable? Or maybe more uncharitably, on autopilot. Not a whole lot of new character stuff, mostly just reinforcement of things we already know. Though that might be unfair – I liked all the stuff with Taki – it pretty much completely reframed his character, and the Natsuki bit was very sweet, but also rang true. Hell, we even got something with Michie.Was hoping they'd cut the veestigal Taki crush plotline, though, but whatevs.

edited 9th Jun '15 3:23:43 PM by majoraoftime

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#169: Jun 9th 2015 at 2:37:31 PM

A blind audition makes the most sense here. Vote based purely on sound, so no favoritism from the groupies.

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#170: Jun 9th 2015 at 5:06:52 PM

[up]That would be the best. Both are behind the curtain and have drawn lots beforehand to decide order. I really do not like slavish worshipers like bow-girl.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#171: Jun 9th 2015 at 5:41:28 PM

Episode 10

In Which There Is A Recount

Natsuki's character arc is complete, and it makes me feel so good. She's a cool bro.

Yuko has a hissy fit over something she shouldn't even have anything to do with.

Oh here we have the truth. There was some established favoritism with Sensei and Reina. I feel bad to anyone else who may have been shunned due to his treatment toward Reina.

Ah I like the girl with the fang. Too bad she's an extra.

… SENSEI IS SHOUTING!? Over something trivial!? :O

.. oh that's right. Asuka hasn't even appeared in this episode yet!

:D YES!! INNUENDO! JUST WHAT WE NEEDED!

Kaori gets another chance! :D Good thing too. If people think the auditions weren't done fairly, the teacher needs to look at it a second time.

HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#172: Jun 9th 2015 at 5:47:59 PM

[up] The idea was that he was getting more and more pissed with the rumours and the band's behaviour as the week progressed, and he finally reached boiling point in that scene and lashed out at them.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#173: Jun 9th 2015 at 6:32:56 PM

I was gonna say. Unmotivated students, tempers, and rumors are things he can handle... but blankets!! He shall not stand for it!!

edited 9th Jun '15 8:43:09 PM by kyun

HanabiraKage (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#175: Jun 9th 2015 at 7:07:36 PM

I think the blankets represented their lack of motivation, which pissed him off.


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