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Before making or posting in a thread, read the Trope Repairing Guidelines to see whether a thread you're considering making actually should be made, as well as what is and isn't allowed in an open thread.

This thread is a metathread for Trope Repair Shop discussion. Things like TRS policy, what is needed in a TRS opening post, questions about whether a certain topic is TRS-worthy and questions about why a thread wasn't opened go here.

Some guidelines for when/whether to use TRS:

  • If the trope is fine, but has some bad examples, feel free to clean them up or to start a cleanup project at Projects: Short-Term. Trope Repair Shop is for when cleaning isn't sufficient.
  • If you think there's something wrong with the trope that systematically attracts improper examples, start a discussion at Trope Talk. Use a Wick Check to see whether there's an issue present (and if there is, what the issue is). The following methods are two possible ways to do a wick check (though not necessarily the only ways):
    • You can go ahead with the Wick Check without a discussion if you know what you're looking for. While it's not mandatory, feel free to ask someone for help confirming that you got the issue and the numbers correct.
    • Consult the Wick Check Project thread to collect evidence if you need help.
  • Depending on a trope (or non-trope) in question, a wick check may be determined to not be required, such as for tropes that are not thriving (per the standards for trope health listed on the Wick page). However, there is no problem if you want to do one anyway.

For a more detailed introduction to this forum, click here.

For related projects, see Wick Cleaning Projects and the Wick Check Project.

For a list of wiki pages related to thread outcomes, see the following:

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 12th 2025 at 11:35:13 AM

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#2451: Sep 13th 2021 at 3:35:40 AM

Wish I could take Truth in Television to TRS, but I can't get myself to do a wick check.

BTW, is there a place for dewicking?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#2452: Sep 13th 2021 at 11:49:08 AM

Besides here, there's a thread somewhere in long-term for it, but you can't really start the process there (if it's for a trope, anyway).

If you yourself can't do the check, might as well throw it under the "tropes needing wick checks" folder on the Wick Check Project sandbox and see if someone else bites. If they do though, they're the one who'll probably take it to the TRS.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 13th 2021 at 2:50:03 PM

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#2453: Sep 13th 2021 at 2:34:41 PM

We have the TRS Wick Cleaning page, but I haven't kept up with it.

I got a rock for Halloween.
Colerich333 Captain Big Chugs from Your Moms House (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Captain Big Chugs
#2454: Sep 13th 2021 at 4:33:58 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped for being spam.
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#2455: Sep 13th 2021 at 9:40:32 PM

Should we bring Needs Wiki Magic Love back to TRS? It's still attracting unwanted wicks, which means moving it to Administrivia/ just wasn't enough.

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2456: Sep 14th 2021 at 5:51:09 AM
GrafVonTirol We can be heroes, just for one day from a state of boredom (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Standing outside, playing "In Your Eyes" on the boombox
We can be heroes, just for one day
#2457: Sep 14th 2021 at 6:52:15 AM

For the best. We should do that as soon as there's an open spot. I believe with even the Administrivia/ link being lazily tacked on, it's just not worth even keeping that as a redirect.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Sep 14th 2021 at 6:53:43 AM

Malady (X-Troper)
#2458: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:11:23 PM

Open spot now...

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2459: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:29:59 PM
wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#2460: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:36:37 PM

It's been an entire hour and a half since then, it's possible the slot was filled in the meantime.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2461: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:40:47 PM

[up] ...I don't think it was ever available. The Morgue doesn't show any closed threads in a while, and I don't see any new threads created since the Stephen King one.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2462: Sep 17th 2021 at 3:01:41 PM

Double post, I know, but a slot may be opening soon, as Wimpification is almost done (as far as I know).

Note that I may grab the spot for either Walking Spoiler or Role-Ending Misdemeanor. Which leads me to my next question: should I

Write-ups for the two are in my sandbox.

Also, I may not take Camera Screw in to TRS, as I don't know what they could do. Should I start a cleanup thread for it? And if so, is it Short- or Long-Term?

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Sep 17th 2021 at 6:05:03 AM

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#2463: Sep 17th 2021 at 3:07:54 PM

I have a few projects I still need to take, but I'd rather let some things close up first and I'm still pretty focused on Not So Different, so I'll continue to pass until there's more openings.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Malady (X-Troper)
#2464: Sep 17th 2021 at 3:50:46 PM

When was Stock Superpowers morgued and what took its place?

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2465: Sep 17th 2021 at 3:51:18 PM

[up] It was morgued Sep. 12 and Works By Stephen King took its place.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
GrafVonTirol We can be heroes, just for one day from a state of boredom (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Standing outside, playing "In Your Eyes" on the boombox
We can be heroes, just for one day
#2466: Sep 17th 2021 at 3:58:25 PM

Remember that we should let the re-TRS of NWML take place as soon as possible.

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2467: Sep 17th 2021 at 4:12:33 PM

[up] Alright, I'll hold off unless Mythical Motifs closes as well, in which case I will take Role-Ending Misdemeanor in for misuse.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#2468: Sep 17th 2021 at 9:47:33 PM

I cleared out most of Real Estate Scam's wicks for The Con thread (someone else picked up where I left off) and migrated Landmark Sale's on-page examples (and some of its wicks), so progress is being made on that thread. The remaining subtrope that hasn't been changed yet (The Mark) has the higher wick count of the two, but it's in the low triple digits, so it's still not incredibly high.

I also turned Win The Crowd into a disambiguation page, per its thread, but I haven't changed any wicks yet (aside from indexes other than the Ambiguity Index and the currently cutlisted Laconic subpage), and I also made Administrivia.Wall Of Text per the Wiki Tropes TRS thread, with wick cleanup for TV Tropes Glossary merges being all that's left for the Wiki Tropes thread (the wick cleanup that needs to be done is listed on the TRS Thread Tracker sandbox).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 17th 2021 at 11:49:06 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#2469: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:40:04 AM

I might take Epic Movie here at some point, the page is littered with Zero-Context Examples, and doesn't have a clear barrier of entry, as anyone can add whatever work they want to the list.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Sep 18th 2021 at 11:44:42 AM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#2470: Sep 18th 2021 at 5:57:28 PM

I added several starred threads to the TRS Thread Tracker sandbox so they're easier to keep track of, since some of those threads were further down the page.

I got a rock for Halloween.
Malady (X-Troper)
#2471: Sep 18th 2021 at 8:23:39 PM

And Mythical Motifs has been morgued!

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#2472: Sep 18th 2021 at 8:52:13 PM

...And it was taken by a thread that'll most likely just be immediately morgued.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#2473: Sep 18th 2021 at 9:10:52 PM

Sure enough, it's been axed.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2474: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:43:37 AM

Ten Ways To Rewrite A Show: a restatement of someone's work, not a trope. Do I have to wick check if taking it to TRS? Same with TV Tropes Derivatives

Edited by Tabs on Sep 19th 2021 at 12:59:34 PM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#2475: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:01:27 AM

[up]The former only has six wicks and the latter only has four, so you might not need a wick check. Just list Not Thriving as the thread reason.

That said, if you did a wick check, it wouldn't take long at all.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 19th 2021 at 3:02:24 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.

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