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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 12th 2025 at 11:35:13 AM

ThrawnCA Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
#8951: Jul 10th 2024 at 4:06:11 PM

There is a circular dependency between The Minion Master and Beast Master; each one claims to be a Sub-Trope of the other. I'm not 100% certain of what the correct fix is.

MyFinalEdits Delete message from Parts Unknown (Spin-off Series) Relationship Status: Cast away
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#8952: Jul 10th 2024 at 4:18:27 PM

That would be a better fit for the Setting Up Trope Relationships thread.

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ThrawnCA Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
#8953: Jul 10th 2024 at 4:20:14 PM

[up] Sounds good, but link please? I don't see any mention of that thread on the forum list, the homepages of TRS or Trope Talk, or this thread's sticky post.

Edited by ThrawnCA on Jul 10th 2024 at 9:21:04 PM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
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#8955: Jul 10th 2024 at 5:09:47 PM

Sorry for not having answered. I was busy finishing a huge edit in an article and then talking with my sister about something crucial. Thanks to Amonimus for giving the thread's link.

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JHD0919 (Life not ruined yet)
#8956: Jul 11th 2024 at 6:49:33 AM

~selkies

I see that you've recently started editing and forum-posting again. Your entries on the TRS Queue were put on hold because you did not want them to be launched without you. Is it OK if we put them back? And if so, where on the queue should they go?

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#8957: Jul 12th 2024 at 3:38:12 AM

If I recall, some of those threads actually reached the top of the queue, even before selkies fully stopped editing, and that's when they got put on hold. If we put them back where they originally were, they'd all be in line to be launched next. (As of October 4, selkies' last thread was #33 and the Cosplay thread on top of the queue now was #107.) But after so long I don't know how much they even remember about those threads, and even if they do I wouldn't blame them for not wanting them to all be launched in quick succession.

Edited by MorganWick on Jul 12th 2024 at 3:43:12 AM

LoadsAndLoadsOfFreeTime RAM Day 4: Dr. Loboto & Sheegor (Season 2) Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
RAM Day 4: Dr. Loboto & Sheegor
#8958: Jul 12th 2024 at 7:02:36 AM

I'm new to TRS so I'm not entirely sure how things work around here, but I'm almost certain we need to discuss one trope:

Ascended Fanfic confuses me; on one hand, it's described as being for works that started as Fan Fiction, but were then rebranded into original fiction, cutting ties to the original franchise. On the other hand, some examples seem to be referring to fan stuff that became official while still retaining the original IP (for instance, the VVVVVV and Ren & Stimpy examples). You think we should split it?

♪ DUN-DUN-DUN-DUN DUN ♪ "HWUH-HEOW" ♪ NRRRRRRRRR ♪ *BZZZZZT*
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#8959: Jul 12th 2024 at 11:48:00 AM

The latter might be covered by Promoted Fanboy somewhat? But I could see value in a subtrope for fanworks that were incorporated into canon as opposed to standalone Ascended Fanfic.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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UchuuFlamenco Since: Jul, 2017
#8961: Jul 12th 2024 at 6:22:25 PM

I feel like "fan theory/headcanon/fandom in-joke becomes canon" and "fanfic becomes canon" are different enough things but I'm not sure how to explain it.

I think it's because something like a Fan Nickname getting referenced in canon feels like a very different deal than a fan-created installment being declared canon.

animuacid The girl of the window from Astyr residence in Lilysthia's grounds Since: Jan, 2024 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
The girl of the window
#8962: Jul 13th 2024 at 1:09:37 AM

There was a free slot but I wasn't sure about launching Stellar Name. "Individuals named after a star or celestial object" is correct use per the description and I don't think it's less tropeworthy than a group of characters named like that. And the Stellar Name Wick Check only showed 7 ZCE. I'd like for other to take a look and see if there's an actual issue with Stellar Name.

That's why I launched the second item in the TRS Queue, My Art My Memory.

Reminding again about Prussian Kings, and that it doesn't need a TRS thread.

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#8963: Jul 13th 2024 at 2:10:49 AM

Should entries be removed from the Queue before or after the thread is unlocked? I've noticed a minor inconvenience of having to check Queue's edit history to see if someone asked to be pinged.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
JHD0919 (Life not ruined yet)
#8964: Jul 13th 2024 at 7:08:54 AM

But after so long I don't know how much they even remember about those threads

Well, how about we try jogging their memory, then?

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#8965: Jul 14th 2024 at 8:04:17 AM

~selkies Sorry to ping, but a slot is about to open up in TRS. If you want to launch any of your threads, now’s your chance.

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selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#8966: Jul 14th 2024 at 11:49:08 AM

Oh, I missed it due to sleep and work. Better luck next time.

Edited by selkies on Jul 14th 2024 at 8:49:25 PM

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#8967: Jul 14th 2024 at 11:52:06 AM

[up] Actually it never opened. Seems the mods are a bit backlogged.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#8968: Jul 14th 2024 at 12:13:41 PM

Ok, I'll keep an eye on it.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#8969: Jul 14th 2024 at 1:11:20 PM

We have two free slots now due to two wick-starved tropes being out of the way.

Paging ~selkies again.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 14th 2024 at 3:11:43 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#8970: Jul 14th 2024 at 1:20:15 PM

OK, make that three slots because Up To Or More's crowner was ready to call and that was another Not Thriving thread, so dewicking didn't take long. I'll give selkies some time to respond before posting anything from the Queue.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 14th 2024 at 3:20:31 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
animuacid The girl of the window from Astyr residence in Lilysthia's grounds Since: Jan, 2024 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
The girl of the window
#8971: Jul 14th 2024 at 1:30:46 PM

I'm also waiting patiently. Both options (Queue or selkies) involve dealing with a trope with a huge number of wicks: Happily Married (11k wicks) for the former and The Dreaded (18k wicks) for the latter.

Malady (X-Troper)
#8972: Jul 14th 2024 at 1:33:57 PM

I'll wait instead of making Stellar Name then too.

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StalkerGamer That's All, Folks! Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
#8973: Jul 14th 2024 at 2:30:02 PM

Selkies opened The Dreaded, with two more free slots

Edited by StalkerGamer on Jul 14th 2024 at 6:30:32 AM

Malady (X-Troper)
#8974: Jul 14th 2024 at 2:51:23 PM

And Specs Of Awesome. Leaving 1 free slot. I'm gonna wait to see if they're gonna fill that too, which I'm fine with.

Yep, they did with Amusement Park.

Edited by Malady on Jul 14th 2024 at 2:51:49 AM

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selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#8975: Jul 14th 2024 at 2:58:30 PM

Thanks, Malady. You're so kind!

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