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Before making or posting in a thread, read the Trope Repairing Guidelines to see whether a thread you're considering making actually should be made, as well as what is and isn't allowed in an open thread.

This thread is a metathread for Trope Repair Shop discussion. Things like TRS policy, what is needed in a TRS opening post, questions about whether a certain topic is TRS-worthy and questions about why a thread wasn't opened go here.

Some guidelines for when/whether to use TRS:

  • If the trope is fine, but has some bad examples, feel free to clean them up or to start a cleanup project at Projects: Short-Term. Trope Repair Shop is for when cleaning isn't sufficient.
  • If you think there's something wrong with the trope that systematically attracts improper examples, start a discussion at Trope Talk. Use a Wick Check to see whether there's an issue present (and if there is, what the issue is). The following methods are two possible ways to do a wick check (though not necessarily the only ways):
    • You can go ahead with the Wick Check without a discussion if you know what you're looking for. While it's not mandatory, feel free to ask someone for help confirming that you got the issue and the numbers correct.
    • Consult the Wick Check Project thread to collect evidence if you need help.
  • Depending on a trope (or non-trope) in question, a wick check may be determined to not be required, such as for tropes that are not thriving (per the standards for trope health listed on the Wick page). However, there is no problem if you want to do one anyway.

For a more detailed introduction to this forum, click here.

For related projects, see Wick Cleaning Projects and the Wick Check Project.

For a list of wiki pages related to thread outcomes, see the following:

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 12th 2025 at 11:35:13 AM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4651: May 5th 2022 at 10:08:57 PM

Since I talked to the other mods about waiving the Three-Day Rule for the Over And Under The Top thread earlier today, I went ahead and did it and now a slot's open, so paging ~Hello 83433 for said slot.

I got a rock for Halloween.
Hello83433 (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4652: May 5th 2022 at 11:41:13 PM

Thanks! Give me one second and it'll be up :)

E: And it's up, but I messed up the title [lol]

Edited by Hello83433 on May 5th 2022 at 2:46:21 PM

CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floors
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4653: May 6th 2022 at 12:25:54 AM

[up]I fixed the title since "of" wasn't capitalized.

I got a rock for Halloween.
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4654: May 6th 2022 at 5:32:15 AM

I closed the Award-Bait Song thread because of a lack of a wick check and removed Weapon Of Choice from the queue because it already has a thread and just wasn't removed from the queue.

It turns out I was up next with Murphy's Law, so I made the thread.

I got a rock for Halloween.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4655: May 6th 2022 at 9:03:22 AM

I dewicked Hollywood Dress Code. Since that thread is likely to close soon, paging ~Master N who is next on the queue.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#4656: May 6th 2022 at 11:48:58 PM

I remember reading that it was decided a while back to create a new trope page for Joseph Campbell's "dragon" archetype, but that hasn't happened yet. If that's true, I'm willing to bite the bullet and take it to the TLP.

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4657: May 7th 2022 at 8:46:26 AM

Question: should Network Decay be Trivia? It isn't really a trope, in that it concerns a behind-the-scenes concept that might have an impact on a show, but isn't in the show influencing the plot and characters, per se. Would it be a Trivia candidate?

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4658: May 7th 2022 at 8:54:23 AM

I'd say it doesn't affect any work directly, only Creators. Executive Meddling is how it affects an individual work.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4659: May 7th 2022 at 9:03:33 AM
amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#4660: May 7th 2022 at 9:09:37 AM

The Extraordinarily Empowered Girl thread is done, just waiting on a mod to close. So who's ever next on the queue / waiting in the wings for a slot to open up, get ready

Edited by amathieu13 on May 7th 2022 at 12:10:12 PM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4663: May 7th 2022 at 9:44:21 AM

[up] They gave approval to launch without them with credit so I did.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#4664: May 7th 2022 at 1:15:10 PM

So, I have an OP for Dismissed Gender, but I need help with it before I add it to the queue. I don't think it needs a wick check because it's underperforming and has other issues.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4665: May 8th 2022 at 4:26:04 AM

Some wick check sandboxes for Morgued threads hadn't been cut yet, so I went ahead and took care of that. I left the ones for Berserk Button and They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot alone because the I think the latter is being used by its cleanup thread, and the former might be useful for the same purpose.

I got a rock for Halloween.
NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#4666: May 8th 2022 at 7:43:07 AM

Is there a place where we can discuss a proper definition for Award Bait Song (Or rather, Sparkly End Credits Song), so I don't have to do the wick check twice?

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4667: May 8th 2022 at 7:46:09 AM

[up] Trope Talk?

You could just post the wick check in your OP you know. You don’t need to redo it.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#4668: May 8th 2022 at 8:06:48 AM

Apparently I didn't do a proper wick check the first time.

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#4669: May 8th 2022 at 8:16:12 AM

I figure they just want a link in the OP to the sandbox where you did your wick check is all!

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4670: May 8th 2022 at 9:15:48 AM

Yeah, if there was a wick check, the full results need to be posted, either in a sandbox or the opening post. I closed the thread because the information given in the opening post wasn't sufficient.

If you have a wick check sandbox, post a link to it here and I can bring the thread back.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 8th 2022 at 11:17:28 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#4671: May 8th 2022 at 10:50:39 AM

There was no "wick check sandbox", just the broad strokes in my original post. Like I've said, I don't want to go through every You Tube video only to have to redo it when the definition changes.

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#4672: May 8th 2022 at 10:57:13 AM

You don't need to check the videos to do a wick check, only a list of 50 cases of "example as-is - how does the example sound like"

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#4673: May 8th 2022 at 11:12:52 AM

Yeah, if the example is just a link to a video without enough context to sort it, you can chuck that in the ZCE folder.

NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#4674: May 8th 2022 at 11:35:20 AM

Half of the examples are "Song (You Tube link) from Show Name." I'd hate to ditch all of them.

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#4675: May 8th 2022 at 11:38:05 AM

I guess in that case you'd have an additional part of your OP's argument about the sheer number of ZCEs, but I feel you man. I'd have the urge to dig into all of them too.

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail

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