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Before making or posting in a thread, read the Trope Repairing Guidelines to see whether a thread you're considering making actually should be made, as well as what is and isn't allowed in an open thread.

This thread is a metathread for Trope Repair Shop discussion. Things like TRS policy, what is needed in a TRS opening post, questions about whether a certain topic is TRS-worthy and questions about why a thread wasn't opened go here.

Some guidelines for when/whether to use TRS:

  • If the trope is fine, but has some bad examples, feel free to clean them up or to start a cleanup project at Projects: Short-Term. Trope Repair Shop is for when cleaning isn't sufficient.
  • If you think there's something wrong with the trope that systematically attracts improper examples, start a discussion at Trope Talk. Use a Wick Check to see whether there's an issue present (and if there is, what the issue is). The following methods are two possible ways to do a wick check (though not necessarily the only ways):
    • You can go ahead with the Wick Check without a discussion if you know what you're looking for. While it's not mandatory, feel free to ask someone for help confirming that you got the issue and the numbers correct.
    • Consult the Wick Check Project thread to collect evidence if you need help.
  • Depending on a trope (or non-trope) in question, a wick check may be determined to not be required, such as for tropes that are not thriving (per the standards for trope health listed on the Wick page). However, there is no problem if you want to do one anyway.

For a more detailed introduction to this forum, click here.

For related projects, see Wick Cleaning Projects and the Wick Check Project.

For a list of wiki pages related to thread outcomes, see the following:

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 12th 2025 at 11:35:13 AM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4626: May 4th 2022 at 7:00:41 PM

[up]I'd imagine that would require access to the TV Tropes contact form, and I don't have access to it (only a handful of the team does). Either way, if it's cut and we later get permission to host it, mods can restore cut pages.

I got a rock for Halloween.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#4628: May 4th 2022 at 7:04:17 PM

[up] And to be clear, there's no hurry for that one. I was just concerned because while that first one is "not thriving", the other one seemed based on an anecdote, which usually doesn't make a case.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#4629: May 4th 2022 at 7:05:27 PM

Might be one of those non-TRS wick cleans but Body Snatcher's count went ??up?? since the last time it was checked?

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4630: May 4th 2022 at 8:49:17 PM

[up]That doesn't appear to have had a TRS thread, since there's no notice on the discussion page.

I really want to go ahead with renaming TRS Wick Cleaning to something like Wick Cleaning Projects to make it more clear that not everything on there is from TRS.

I got a rock for Halloween.
GastonRabbit MOD C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4631: May 4th 2022 at 8:58:54 PM

As I mentioned in the Outdated Pages thread, TRS Wick Cleaning is now called Wick Cleaning Projects since it isn't (and apparently never was) TRS-specific.

I got a rock for Halloween.
Malady (X-Troper)
#4632: May 4th 2022 at 9:10:34 PM

Is anyone watching the page, so the Discussion is useful, or where's the Forum thread for that page now?

I was wondering what relation, if any, this has with the Wick Migration thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13089408750A90860100&page=55#1364

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#4633: May 4th 2022 at 10:07:11 PM

Ignore, I'm blind apparently, PC is a thread on this forum. Sleepiness had me confuse it with Body Snatcher (the post I had actually been talking about).

Edited by Yindee on May 5th 2022 at 8:58:39 AM

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4634: May 5th 2022 at 8:55:03 AM

~Nate the Great Do you have a wick check ready? You’re second on the queue.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4635: May 5th 2022 at 9:17:01 AM

Abandonware's thread is done, so paging ~eroock.

I got a rock for Halloween.
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#4636: May 5th 2022 at 9:29:37 AM

On it.

Edit: done

Edited by eroock on May 5th 2022 at 10:03:03 AM

NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#4637: May 5th 2022 at 2:23:24 PM

I did a general wick check, but before we get into particulars I'd like to get the definition narrowed down so I don't have to do a thorough wick check twice.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#4638: May 5th 2022 at 2:24:48 PM

Do you have it in a sandbox somewhere?

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4639: May 5th 2022 at 5:59:35 PM

I don't think the merge of Dueling Products ever went through.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#4640: May 5th 2022 at 6:34:17 PM

It's in the queue listing.

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#4641: May 5th 2022 at 6:42:12 PM

Oh man, I think I cleaned about 500 wicks today. PC Split is vanquished!

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#4642: May 5th 2022 at 6:43:55 PM

Nice!

Something Completely Different is almost done, I just don't feel like working on it tonight.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
#4643: May 5th 2022 at 6:47:01 PM

Just be careful you don't burn yourself out.

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#4644: May 5th 2022 at 6:48:30 PM

Ended up trying my best to translate the split tropes for the It/ wick, which was a lot of fun. I think I did the translations justice, but then again I don't speak Italian? Just have a background in linguistics and way too much fun with translation attempts.

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#4645: May 5th 2022 at 7:19:54 PM

Oh BTW a slot's open, so ~Nate the Great you're on. Just be sure to link the wick check in the OP.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#4646: May 5th 2022 at 7:21:40 PM

Updated the wick counts on the Wick Cleaning page and for some tropes the count went way up? So much that it felt like a clerical error on my part, honestly. But I hope it'll be helpful to whoever's choosing a new project to dive into!

Edited by Yindee on May 5th 2022 at 10:22:00 AM

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
#4647: May 5th 2022 at 7:34:16 PM

No, that just happens when stuff doesn't get cleaned. They accumulate more wicks.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#4648: May 5th 2022 at 7:36:57 PM

Also, disambigs and other pages gradually gain wicks so they need to be cleaned every so often.

Macron's notes
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4650: May 5th 2022 at 9:54:32 PM

[up]I clocked the thread for now. If one doesn't actually exist, I'll close the thread before the clock runs out instead of when it runs out.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 5th 2022 at 11:56:26 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.

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