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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#12451: Jul 12th 2018 at 10:58:26 AM

Gyro controls are great. They're great in Splatoon, they're great in BotW, and though I haven't played Wolfenstein yet, I bet they're pretty great there as well. Right stick for large movement and gyro for fine adjustments is the best combo.

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#12452: Jul 12th 2018 at 10:59:14 AM

Again, I fail to see the need for "fine adjustments" with gyro controls when sticks to the job for me just fine.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#12453: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:01:10 AM

Hey, it's fine if you're good with traditional twin-stick controls. There are people who are better at using a typewriter than a modern keyboard. Nothing wrong with that.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#12454: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:06:33 AM

Sticks have always been good for over and under compensating my aim in games. Never got a handle on them even while binge playing the original Uncharted trilogy and its MP mode.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#12455: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:12:44 AM

Gyro controls always felt like there was a brick wall obstructing my visual movement, always centering back whenever I attempted to turn. Felt like I was crawling in molasses or pulling weights with my neck. I'll never understand how people adapted to this control scheme, let alone perfected it.

If gyro controls become mandatory and replace twin sticks for good, I'll lose faith in the genre's fanbase.

Edited by RainingMetal on Jul 12th 2018 at 1:14:44 PM

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#12456: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:20:31 AM

There are people who are better at using a typewriter than a modern keyboard.

I'm gonna need evidence of that. Coz a QWERTY keyboard and a QWERTY typewriter have the same layout. Unless you're using a typewriter that's like... centuries old.

Gonna need evidence that this happens at all (and it's beyond the usual funk anyone gets when changing keyboard). :-P

Got a switch a few weeks on a go. Liking it so far. Hating Breath of the Wild though. It's just so much busywork. And some of the worst UI. Like, if I want to cook the same recipe 40 times. Why can't I just tell the game to do that, and instead have to navigate menus to select ingredients, put them in the fucking fire, wait, rince, repeat, 40 fucking times.

The shooting got better when I turned Gyro controls off. That was awful.

Edited by Ghilz on Jul 12th 2018 at 2:24:40 PM

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#12457: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:31:07 AM

[up]I guess a more accurate comparison would be QWERTY vs Dvorak keyboards. QWERTY is outdated and inefficient, but it's the one that everyone's used to, so they prefer it over Dvorak, though Dvorak is proven to be the better option.

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#12458: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:33:25 AM

[up][up]Hallelujah. Thank god I'm not the only one allergic to gyro controls.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#12459: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:40:55 AM

People are allowed to like Gyro controls. :/

Edited by strawberryflavored on Jul 12th 2018 at 2:42:29 PM

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#12460: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:43:24 AM

Sure, but that doesn't give them the right to put down those who don't. Everyone always sounds like a Smug Snake whenever they wax lyrical about it.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#12461: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:45:40 AM

As someone who hated playing FPS or TPS games on console because twin-stick grated on me immensely, playing Splatoon on the Wii U and having gyro controls just click was amazing. So forgive me if I tend to sing the praises of a system that made any sort of shooting on consoles viable for me.

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#12462: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:47:37 AM

I suppose I'm the opposite then. I adapted relatively quickly to using twin sticks on console shooters and never looked back, so when gyro controls were forced upon me in Splatoon's tutorials, I immediately turned them off when I could, and I don't ever plan on using them. Gyro controls for me are the tool of the devil.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#12463: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:49:19 AM

[up][up][up]i assumed the "tongue" I used would be enough to let out I was just messing about.

I'm not going to shot you down over a freaking control scheme of all things, even though I don't really understand your reasoning for not liking it.

[up]"Tool of devil"? Talk about dramatic!

Edited by Elbruno on Jul 12th 2018 at 2:49:35 PM

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#12464: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:53:59 AM

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will receive more updates in the future.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#12465: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:54:33 AM

Well, as the Angry Video Game Nerd so well put it, the most important aspect of a game is being able to play it. I have absolutely no problem aiming with sticks and it baffles me that people do. It doesn't help that Star Fox Zero was such a disaster due to said gyro control favoritism. At least Splatoon allowed you to play with that shit dialed off.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#12466: Jul 12th 2018 at 11:57:01 AM

SF Zero wasn't shit because of gyros, but because of throwing the freaking second screen into the mix as well.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#12467: Jul 12th 2018 at 12:20:15 PM

I mean, I dislike the gyro control, but I can just turn them off. I don't mind them being there. If you like them or they help you, that's fine. Accessibility for the win.

I do take offence at the game NOT TELLING ME they are there until an arbitrary loading screen 10 hours in making me wonder why I couldn't aim for shit and if Link has Parkinson's or cerebral palsy.

Edited by Ghilz on Jul 12th 2018 at 3:20:22 PM

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#12468: Jul 12th 2018 at 12:22:51 PM

Not noticing gyro controls are on for 10 hours?

I'll be blunt, if you didn't notice it for that long it's entirely on you.

Edited by Elbruno on Jul 12th 2018 at 3:22:43 PM

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#12469: Jul 12th 2018 at 12:24:46 PM

[up][up]Also, could we please not resort to ableist insults?

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#12470: Jul 12th 2018 at 12:34:03 PM

I'm in the habit of going to the options menu every time I start up a game. Usually to turn on subtitles, or check out the game's assigned controls. I can't say for Breath of the Wild as I'm no Zelda fan, but I can imagine the inconvenience of not knowing something until it's too late. I assumed Link aimed like someone was pushing his face when he was aiming from your point of view.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#12471: Jul 12th 2018 at 12:45:07 PM

I'll be blunt, if you didn't notice it for that long it's entirely on you.

I didn't know it was even a possibility. I just got the console and it's not like the thing has a manual.

VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Calendar enthusiast
#12472: Jul 12th 2018 at 6:12:51 PM

Dvorak is proven to be the better option.

[citation needed]

I also like gyro aiming. So much easier to make fine adjustments than twin-stick, though I will acknowledge the Wii probably did it better.

I noticed gyro aiming the first time I used a bow. The game introduces motion controls in one of the first four shrines, so when I was shooting, I noticed that the cursor was following my hands.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#12473: Jul 12th 2018 at 6:43:54 PM

I've used gyro aiming a few times. I can see the appeal since it feels real smooth, but I don't really want to have to move my console/controller around like that constantly. I'm just fine with the twin sticks. Either way it's good to have the option to use either.

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#12474: Jul 12th 2018 at 6:52:34 PM

I'm real twitchy so I can't play with gyro, which makes Splatoon 2 really hard for me.

Chris Tenacious D time! from Deth Starr Since: Mar, 2013
Tenacious D time!
#12475: Jul 12th 2018 at 7:23:43 PM

This was already posted in the Smash Bros. thread, but a 4chan leak for a July 22nd Nintendo Direct has popped up. According to the leak, there will be Switch ports of the following games...

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