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vicarious
Jan 30th 2020 at 2:15:47 PM

Okay that is inspired

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FGHIK Mr. Speaker from right behind you Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
Mr. Speaker
Feb 13th 2020 at 11:13:31 PM

So anyone have a guess who Kong and Godzilla will team up against in the next movie (because they probably will)? I'm thinking Destoroyah, Mechagodzilla, and Mecha-King Ghidorah are the most likely candidates, since there were potential setups for each of them in Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019). That or an original monster if they can't acquire the rights for another Toho kaiju, though that would be a bit disappointing.

Although I think it's unlikely, I'd like to see Destoroyah and Mechagodzilla. IMO, it's too soon to bring back Ghidorah, even in mecha form.

Mechagodzilla would be created by humanity so they can actually fight the Titans themselves instead of just hoping Godzilla saves them, especially if Godzilla is the aggressor in this movie. It would probably be built around the skeleton from Godzilla (2014) like Kiryu, to justify how humanity can create a humongous mecha without going full Pacific Rim. It could represent the good of humanity.

Destoroyah would be the Big Bad that puts them in an Enemy Mine. Its origins would obviously involve the Oxygen Destroyer, and perhaps the severed Ghidorah head. Regardless, it would of course be very powerful, enough to pose a real threat in a 1v2 or even a 1v3. He could represent the bad of humanity, since he was created as a consequence of our actions.

If Mechagodzilla wasn't already destroyed fighting Godzilla (it wouldn't be fighting Kong since he's already an underdog), it could be deployed to fight Destoroyah and might end up destroyed to show off his power. And because they really love that aesop about nature being in control and letting them fight.

Edited by FGHIK on Feb 13th 2020 at 1:15:09 PM

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Shadao Surprised Satoshi
Surprised Satoshi
Feb 13th 2020 at 11:58:38 PM

[up] Rumor has it that Mechagodzilla is the True Final Boss of Kong vs Godzilla

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Mr. Speaker
Feb 14th 2020 at 12:46:25 AM

You mean the alleged leak? I'm not sure if I buy it. The design doesn't really look like anything we've seen in the Monsterverse before. Admittedly Mechagodzilla would naturally look somewhat different, but in general the monsterverse goes for more realism. And I'm not sure how Mechagodzilla would work as a main antagonist, unless it somehow ends up controlled by someone evil like Alan Jonah.

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chasemaddigan Kirby's Triple Deluxe Sundae
Kirby's Triple Deluxe Sundae
Feb 14th 2020 at 7:27:08 AM

Wait, a big crossover fight that would end with the two teaming up to fight a new threat? Why does that sound so familiar?

[Gamera shows up to shield Godzilla and Kong from one of Mechagodzilla's blasts]
Godzilla: Is he with you?
Kong: I thought he was with you?

Feb 14th 2020 at 9:22:56 AM

Jokes aside, I actually would like to see a Monsterverse style adaptation of the Gamera series. I could see it leaning more towards the mystical whereas Godzilla leaned more towards Lovecraft/sci-fi and since there are fewer iconic kaiju it would easily lend itself to original ones. The fact the franchise isn't as big as Godzilla means that it should be much cheaper to acquire the license.

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Mr. Speaker
Feb 14th 2020 at 10:48:49 AM

I'm surprised there hasn't been an official crossover between Godzilla and Gamera yet.

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Feb 14th 2020 at 11:01:49 AM

I'd read once that in a country like Japan, actually getting an Intercompany Crossover going is incredibly difficult due to the committees who run things. Lots of concerns about making sure their respective character gets the right amount of screen time, isn't made to look weak to prop up the other one, issues of revenue sharing, overseas licensing, ect.

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Mr. Speaker
Feb 14th 2020 at 11:30:10 AM

That's surprising, since arguably one of the biggest crossovers ever is from a Japanese company.

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Eldritch Rose Quartz
Feb 14th 2020 at 11:34:10 AM

I heard there was only a stage play with their showa versions duking it out, but I can't find any real sources other than a magazine still.

Also, Monsterverse Godzilla is by all accounts an Expy of Heisei Gamera so it won't be hard to write the Guardian of the Universe in the films

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chasemaddigan Kirby's Triple Deluxe Sundae
Kirby's Triple Deluxe Sundae
Feb 14th 2020 at 11:42:55 AM

The closest thing besides that stage play was City Shrouded In Shadow, which admittedly didn't have the two crossover because they were in separate stages.

Personally, I think it'd be interesting if they took some traits from the Showa series if they brought Gamera in. Lean in to his Friend to All Children reputation and make his films the more family-friendly ones in the MonsterVerse. I'm thinking a Gamera film with a similar story and tone to The Iron Giant or Bumblebee would be a great idea, a real Boy and his Kaiju story.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Feb 14th 2020 at 2:43:26 PM

Feb 14th 2020 at 11:57:00 AM

I find it weird that Gamera was usually geared more towards children given that series propensity for brutal monster gore and the fact that many of the enemy kaiju are shown eating and killing people whereas most Godzilla kaiju are just shown smashing buildings.

[up] I agree on that front, I would like to see a Gamera film with a tone somewhere in between the Heisei and Showa films. Actually, I thinks a Gamera with that kind of tone would actually lend itself well to an animated series.

Edited by Kaiseror on Feb 14th 2020 at 2:23:19 PM

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Mr. Speaker
Feb 14th 2020 at 12:10:00 PM

Well, the Godzilla movies did get pretty childish at times as well. I'd say Gamera probably went there so fast because the original movie wasn't as dark as the first Godzilla. It was just a monster movie, not an allegory for the horrors of war. So it was a lot easier to turn him into a hero.

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Eldritch Rose Quartz
Feb 14th 2020 at 3:25:08 PM

[up][up]Gamera the Brave is what you're looking for then. It's not quite as ark as the Heisei films, but not too childish like the Showa films

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