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Filip04 Since: Nov, 2023
#15001: Sep 25th 2024 at 9:05:28 AM

I mean it could be logical that Panchito lacks his guns in this incarnation, given that here he is just a normal guy who wants to become a famous singer and not some cowboy in Zorro-inspired setting.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#15002: Sep 25th 2024 at 9:53:47 AM

I wonder if that smartphone joke was a reference to ET.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#15003: Sep 25th 2024 at 10:04:29 AM

I do think it's interesting that they let him keep the Pistoles last name here when they haven't anywhere else in a decade or so.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#15004: Sep 25th 2024 at 10:46:06 AM

Seems fine to me as a legacy name.

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bn2000 Since: Dec, 2022
#15005: Sep 27th 2024 at 10:23:03 AM

Did you like Goldie in this version?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#15006: Sep 27th 2024 at 10:38:38 AM

Hmm, a little, though I'm not sure about trying to push her relationship with Scrooge so much. The strength of Goldie's character is that she is the one thing Scrooge truly wants but cannot get. Thematically, she serves as a reminder that all the money in the world can't get you everything you want. And that is a role Goldie plays very well in Scrooge's Citizen Kane-esque life story.

But this show just isn't all that interested in the biopic side to Scrooge's life, much as it loves the trappings of Life and Times, so they turn her into his adventuring frenemy who feels much more at home in the sort of adventure story Indiana Jones and Nathan Drake live in than in the rather serious and dramatic biopic Rosa was trying to create with Life and Times.

Which version you enjoy more depends on whether you prefer Citizen Kane Scrooge or Indiana Jones Scrooge. Both versions have their merits, and I think Ducktales managed to sell the latter rather well.

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bn2000 Since: Dec, 2022
#15007: Sep 30th 2024 at 1:06:10 PM

[up]I didn't mean differences from previous versions. I'm not interested in them. I don't like Goldie as a stand-alone character. I have nothing against her being made a thief. But a thief in a movie should either be very cool (so that the audience is amazed by his intelligence and skills) or have sufficient standards (so that the audience sympathizes with him).

It may seem like Goldie is cool and smart, but it doesn't seem that way to me. I mean, she really showed those qualities in her debut. She stocked up on an artifact that saved her life; she defeated Webby and Beakley (although that's a bit much). But since season two, she's essentially been acting in the same pattern: waiting for her allies or rivals to get busy with other things or just turn away, and sneaking off with the loot. Given that those around her continue to trust her and don't learn from her mistakes, it's just getting boring to watch.

She has only one standard. If the Mc Duck family is facing imminent doom, then she comes to their rescue. But if they have a chance to get out on their own, she won't help. And she's also not averse to leaving Scrooge in the lurch, because... He's Scrooge Mc Duck, he's gonna get out. In the matter of who to rob, she has no restrictions at all. Angones confirmed it on Tumblr. Add to the above the fact that the Mcduck family forgives her everything and is always happy to welcome her with open arms (at least Scrooge and Louie are), and there's just no point in empathizing with her. She's doing just fine as it is.

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#15008: Sep 30th 2024 at 1:10:29 PM

Isn't that similar to Rouge the Bat from the Sonic franchise where she's also a thief with little standards unless her loved ones' lives are on the line, but Sonic, Shadow, Omega, and the others still see her as a friend?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#15009: Sep 30th 2024 at 1:48:55 PM

Well, like I said, she's basically filling an adventure story role here: the treacherous female colleague/love interest/rival who alternatingly flirts with and betrays the hero, never really on the good side, but will do anything she can to save the hero if he needs it (but never admitting she actually likes him or anything, of course).

It's honestly a bit surprising they play her so straight when they love toying with such cliches elsewhere.

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Antiyonder (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#15010: Oct 1st 2024 at 4:27:01 PM

Among some other 2010s shows, Duck Tales' first season officially distributed on You Tube Disney XD channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg6R6yXKSLYDIznq1cKGw3U8avI8SenAy

Let's Get Dangerous also is still up:

Edited by Antiyonder on Oct 2nd 2024 at 5:59:02 AM

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#15011: Oct 27th 2024 at 9:56:48 PM

Anyone find it odd we see Della scuba diving in a flashback in Last Crash of the Sunchaser, despite Mervana showing she hates fish to the point where she refused to join the adventure?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/m2cnndj.png

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#15012: Oct 28th 2024 at 12:09:56 AM

[up]It may of course just be an inconsistency, but perhaps it was something on this specific dive that traumatised her so much that it led to her fish-phobia?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#15013: Oct 28th 2024 at 1:23:58 AM

Or maybe it was a one episode character trait that they didn't really portray consistently. It happens. One-Episode Fear is a trope, after all.

Considering it was used as an excuse to keep her out of the episode, I think that's your answer right there.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 28th 2024 at 9:33:33 AM

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Filip04 Since: Nov, 2023
#15014: Oct 28th 2024 at 7:59:45 AM

Can you guys explain to me why Scrooge hates Jose and Panchito? Because to me the scene at the end of their debut episode where he destroys their guitar made me think that he only did it out of spite.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#15015: Oct 28th 2024 at 8:00:27 AM

It may of course just be an inconsistency, but perhaps it was something on this specific dive that traumatised her so much that it led to her fish-phobia?

It certainly wouldn't surprise me if something happened in Della's earlier years that turned her off from fish. Or maybe she was better at handling things when she was younger. People do change over the years, after all.


Can you guys explain to me why Scrooge hates Jose and Panchito?

I don't think he "hates" them, but I do think he dislikes them because he finds them noisy and disruptive. Which, to be fair to him, is a very common reason for lots of real life cases of disliking someone.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Oct 28th 2024 at 8:01:53 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#15016: Oct 28th 2024 at 8:04:57 AM

[up][up] Well, comics Scrooge would consider them lazy loafers and layabouts (just like Donald, of course), so perhaps that carried over a little in the show as well, even though this version of Scrooge is much more laid back about the work ethic of others.

[up] Yes, I think that fits better with the cranky old man thing this show has going with Scrooge.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 28th 2024 at 4:05:58 PM

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SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#15017: Oct 28th 2024 at 9:13:55 AM

I think Scrooge also broke Panchito's guitar because he found their music to be annoying, given he does mention being annoyed at their music at the start of the episode when recalling his annoyances with them to the kids. He still thinks that by Louie's Eleven where he refused to help the band (though the fact they were performing in his own bathroom and demanding money didn't help).

Filip04 Since: Nov, 2023
#15018: Oct 31st 2024 at 12:11:44 PM

I will today watch show's Halloween episode. It's my little tradition that I watch it every Halloween.smile

Happy Halloween!smile

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#15019: Nov 16th 2024 at 2:20:19 PM

I found out that Frank Angones is now on Blue Sky Social now. Considering he hasn't posted on Twitter in 2 years and hasn't been to Tumblr since the show ended, at least he's back on social media again. Guess he got tired of Twitter.

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Nov 16th 2024 at 5:20:26 AM

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#15020: Nov 17th 2024 at 8:14:44 AM

Considering what the site formerly known as Twitter is like now, I wouldn’t be surprised if he decided to get off the site.

The bigots growing louder and louder on that site would certainly be an incentive to leave and never come back.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 17th 2024 at 8:29:51 AM

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#15021: Nov 17th 2024 at 8:19:21 AM

Or he's finally wised up to the fact that being a creator on Twitter and "engaging with the fans" isn't all that it's cracked up to be by marketing departments.

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GoSweetToday The Contract Freeloader from New York Since: Aug, 2024 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#15022: Nov 17th 2024 at 8:46:04 AM

[up]You don't like this version of Scrooge that much, do you? Because you seem to express repeated disappointment about how the show portrayed him as a far cry from his original appearances in the comics to the point you keep bringing up Life and Times. There are lot of reasons for a makeover, like Values Dissonance, making the character relatable and more likable to audiences, and allowing children not born in the 20th century to take a peek at the franchise. If adaptations and reimaginings want to make their own personal interpretations of the setting, then so be it. It's their own thing. Multiple works of the Transformers, Batman, Superman, Justice League, Scooby-Doo and Spider-Man have been made with different interpretations of the world, plot, and characters with no fuss, so I don't see how Ducktales of all franchises should be singled out for having an adventure-seeking Scrooge.

Edit: [down] I'm not talking about his recent post, I'm talking about his history. He always has a conniption about Scrooge being a "gruff Indiana Jones" in the show instead of the selfish miser with little redeeming qualities in the comics.

Edited by GoSweetToday on Nov 17th 2024 at 12:17:29 PM

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SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#15023: Nov 17th 2024 at 8:59:59 AM

[up]Okay, that user didn't even mention Scrooge in the comment you're replying to. This was just talking about Frank Angones and him moving to Blue Sky Social over Twitter.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#15024: Nov 17th 2024 at 9:04:04 AM

I personally don't want to speculate on why Angones hasn't posted on the site formerly known as Twitter anymore; I can certainly see several reasons why he wouldn't want to post there, but I'll leave it up to him to explain his decision to others if he wants.

I will say that I don't think he's losing anything of value by moving on, especially given what the site is like now. I can't see post threads anymore since I don't have an account and never plan on getting one, but it really wouldn't surprise me if he had been targeted by certain hateful individuals, especially given that this reboot series made no secret of being inclusive.

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#15025: Nov 17th 2024 at 9:26:00 AM

I'm not talking about his recent post, I'm talking about his history. He always has a conniption about Scrooge being a "gruff Indiana Jones" in the show instead of the selfish miser with little redeeming qualities in the comics.

Something that hasn't been mentioned at all in the current conversation, which would mean you're just trying to pick a fight. Don't.


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