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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14976: Sep 9th 2024 at 3:45:50 PM

Actually no, he comes back for a multipart episode.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#14977: Sep 10th 2024 at 9:01:21 AM

I've never seen that episode so I only remember the show never featured as heavily as Scrooge or the other three ducks

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wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#14978: Sep 10th 2024 at 11:06:35 AM

The unicorn just popping out of existence because the ducks walked too far away from him in the dream in one episode killed me 😂 Without a sound or visual effect either.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14979: Sep 11th 2024 at 4:57:04 AM

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that in this thread several times before though.

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bn2000 Since: Dec, 2022
#14980: Sep 24th 2024 at 12:04:26 PM

I don't really understand the authors logic in terms of weapons. The characters don't use firearms because it's violent. But bows, crossbows, electroshock and cold weapons are as much as they want (not to mention magic and the supernatural). Do they think these weapons are less lethal or what?

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
#14981: Sep 24th 2024 at 12:11:26 PM

[up]Not exclusive to this show, lots of other cartoons have that issue. The recent HBO Max Looney Tunes shorts even forbid Elmer from having a gun despite no problems with him having a scythe and an ax.

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Sep 24th 2024 at 3:11:37 PM

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#14982: Sep 24th 2024 at 12:12:42 PM

Might be mandates from the higher-ups. Reminds me of how Alex Hirsch once talked about some of Disney’s mandates regarding Gravity Falls.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#14983: Sep 24th 2024 at 12:17:19 PM

> I don't really understand the authors logic in terms of weapons. The characters don't use firearms because it's violent. But bows, crossbows, electroshock and cold weapons are as much as they want (not to mention magic and the supernatural). Do they think these weapons are less lethal or what?

Those weapons are seen as old fashioned so they're not really problematic,but gun violence is a very real issue in America and there's a desire not to distress viewers with over the top gun violence

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 24th 2024 at 8:17:46 PM

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bn2000 Since: Dec, 2022
#14984: Sep 24th 2024 at 12:44:52 PM

[up]In that case, they should ban the Disney Afternoon shows from the '90s. There's plenty of firearms out there. Come on, we're living in the age of the Internet. Viewers are gonna find out anyway.

Edited by bn2000 on Sep 24th 2024 at 12:45:25 PM

GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#14985: Sep 24th 2024 at 12:54:53 PM

They banned a Gargoyles episode back in the 90s when Broadway shot Elisa. So there's always been some level of concern regarding gun violence and imitable acts.

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#14986: Sep 24th 2024 at 1:07:55 PM

Maybe you should try to actually put limits on buying the actual guns so they become as difficult to find as a crossb— ah ha ha ha, what am I saying?

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bn2000 Since: Dec, 2022
#14987: Sep 24th 2024 at 1:18:34 PM

[up]Then vote Democrat.

But seriously, there's a sequel out this year about the killer Winnie the Pooh. Soon he'll be joined by Bambi, Mickey Mouse, Oswald. Sooner or later, it's gonna be Donald Duck. And I can even believe in his rampage, given his violent temper and hard life.

This is not how I envisioned the public domain. What's gonna happen to Duck Tales?

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Lucky Seven
#14988: Sep 24th 2024 at 1:23:19 PM

Bambi, you say? That just made me remember one of my favorite jokes. :)

There’s this funny video where a bunch of players recreated Disney movies with World of Warcraft characters. In one part, the hunter shot Bambi’s mother… and then the eponymous deer turned out to be a Druid and he said “Oh no, you didn’t!”, and he turned into his Cat Form. XD

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#14989: Sep 24th 2024 at 3:20:37 PM

The recent HBO Max Looney Tunes shorts even forbid Elmer from having a gun despite no problems with him having a scythe and an ax.

In the first season. Guns were allowed for the rest of the series.

wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#14990: Sep 24th 2024 at 6:01:45 PM

That "gold fever" episode was a little hard to watch when the pandemic started.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14991: Sep 24th 2024 at 6:08:23 PM

I think it is partly the cultural perceptive that arrows are both less powerful than bullets, and basically harmless. How many works have the hero shrug off an arrow to the leg or even the torso? Suffice to say, in real life these weapons were anything but harmless, to the point that archers were universally despised as a profession.

Also notice that while there are some weapons, no one ever gets physically shot by an arrow or anything.

As for lasers and electric shocks, those are seen as less direct and less obviously deadly.

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#14992: Sep 24th 2024 at 9:55:19 PM

I think it's partly a case of Do Not Do This Cool Thing. Since guns are so common in American households, the execs are worried that if gun violence is presented as thrilling, fun, badass, or heroic, then kids may try to take their dad's gun and use it as a toy.

Of course, this is the exact plot of the Gargoyles episode in question - Broadway borrows Elisa's gun and playa with it after seeing so many detective movies with gun violence, and that results in him accidentally shooting Elisa.

Edited by Snicka on Sep 24th 2024 at 9:57:46 AM

Nexus Since: Jan, 2001
#14993: Sep 24th 2024 at 11:36:07 PM

Yeah, it's not about how deadly the weapon is, they're worried about kids finding guns and imitating what they see.

[up] Speaking of Gargoyles, there was another episode where Demona straight up murdered people on-screen, which they apparently got away with because it's really hard for a child in real life to magically turn people into stone and then smash them into pieces with a mace.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14994: Sep 25th 2024 at 2:21:53 AM

Considering how terrible parents tend to be about locking away their guns, the execs are absolutely right on that one.

The comics tend to avoid guns as well, though I think I've seen the Beagle Boys use them in older stories.

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#14995: Sep 25th 2024 at 6:47:07 AM

To reiterate, it's actually a problem of the culture making guns so common to begin with.

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#14996: Sep 25th 2024 at 6:51:50 AM

Anyway,in modern ducktales they didn't let Panchito Pistoles keep his guns due to similar concerns about depicting firarms,or José Carioca smoke a cigar

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#14997: Sep 25th 2024 at 7:48:50 AM

In all fairness Brazilian comics took Ze's cigar away decades ago.

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Travsam The Reconqueror from The Spanish side of Europe Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#14998: Sep 25th 2024 at 8:12:12 AM

I think the depiction of Panchito shooting bullets for fun was more for a cowboy rather than for a Mexican Charro, so I am not angry with that...

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14999: Sep 25th 2024 at 8:23:53 AM

I think the comics will make an exception for cowboys, most of the times. I mean, it would be kind of hard to do cowboys without the guns.

And yeah, Joe doesn't smoke any more in the comics. Still chases skirt, though. Some things never change.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#15000: Sep 25th 2024 at 9:01:01 AM

Anyway,in modern ducktales they didn't let Panchito Pistoles keep his guns due to similar concerns about depicting firarms,or José Carioca smoke a cigar

Panchito using his gun holsters as smartphone carriers was pretty cute. It's the sort of character design thing I'd expect to see in an Ace Attorney game, and I love it.

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