New DuckTales Animated Series

the Villain in the Agent 22 episode. I can’t remember the character’s name though.

I don’t get it. They are more than happy to use the “Gay Caballeros” line in the real de in EPCOT, but not anywhere else.

The ride itself is kind boring, but the characters are very nicely animated, with very smooth and full looking movement. This video is from before they replaced the ending animation with (early 70s) Animatronics, though.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 11th 2018 at 12:41:49 PM

Saw the ep with my sister today.

The social media sideplot annoyed me a bit. Granted, I'm biased; I kind of hate when shows try to do a message on social media either way, due to not really using most social media outlets (outside of perhaps Tumblr and Youtube). I am aware I am using social media right now.

I would have liked more stuff with the Caballeros, even if they were the bigger focus on the episode.

I think that they telegraphed the plant monster twist too much, from the name of the festival to how evil the thing looked. Especially if you took the time to read Louie and Dewey's Tweets, which name the plant "Carnivora". I also thought that nobody noticed the townsfolk had feet was reaching, but was probably meant to tie into the message about social media.

I did still feel the episode was very strong, since seeing Donald spend time having fun with his old friends was pretty cool, and the episode was still pretty funny. The plant monster's design was cool too.

Edited by Etheru on Nov 11th 2018 at 10:15:39 AM

I saw it less as a "social media" plot and more of a "good tourist / bad tourist plot," tbh. The gag isn't about the fact that Dewey's posting to Duck! Twitter, but that he's being superficial and vaguely disrespectful in his photography, vs Webby trying to experience and appreciate what she's seeing.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 11th 2018 at 10:42:46 AM

I guess I looked too far into things again. XD

That does make the subplot feel a bit better, although I do still think it was kind of an obnoxious subplot.

I kinda felt like Webby was too eager to Absorb All The Culture, but she's definitely better behaved than Dewey and Louie.

I thoroughly checked out during the photo-taking side plot. It was clearly an easy way to cater to the current young generation, mainly toward children who have never used a smartphone before.

Oh, 'cause Webby always has to be in the right about everything?

Honestly, I can kind of relate. You know when you’re on a trip somewhere and then your friend/family member makes you stop to take a selfie, but they don’t like how it came out and make you do another one, and then have to do another for Snapchat or instagram etc? It sometimes gets a bit annoying.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 12th 2018 at 3:23:49 PM

I am that sibling. Not yours specifically, of course. :P

As I said, it was still a good episode, the subplot just wasn't that interesting to me. It's just a fun little character piece about Donald and his friends.

Relatedly, I'd like to see a translation of the inscription in the episode. I am curious as to what it actually says.

Edited by Etheru on Nov 11th 2018 at 4:10:10 AM

Let's not forget that Dewey had to be written entirely out of character for that subplot to even come into existence.

A meh episode overall. A lot of character regression, cringey humour, and odd writing.

Everyone was annoying, with the exception of Huey and Donald. And even then, Donald got on my nerves at some points.

Edited by BrightLight on Nov 13th 2018 at 9:40:07 AM

I didn't see Dewey doing anything particularly out of character in this one.

He's shown a desire to be media famous before (with an episode of the series and then an entire series of shorts dedicated to the idea), a sense of delusion over how much people care about what he does (which is his reason for being a photo freak here), plus a willingness to blatantly milk the situations he finds himself in for that reason (sometimes without caring about the situation himself, like he's doing here), and is the one who related the most to Mark Beaks and his lifestyle (who he's basically acting like here).

He's a born adventurer, but that doesn't make him an attentive tourist. Especially when that tourist experience doesn't actually involve having an adventure. Outside of that, being an Attention Whore is a big part of his characterization, and that's what's on display here.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 12th 2018 at 12:55:06 PM

We had a whole season of supposed character development centering on Dewey learning how to be a proper adventurer, and an all-round better person.

Was that not meant to stick?

Edited by BrightLight on Nov 13th 2018 at 12:27:49 AM

I had no real problems with it. I honesly found the whole thing very relatable, and it was nice seeeing Donald happy for once.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 12th 2018 at 7:23:49 AM

I just watched the episode for The Three Caballeros (due to gaining some interest in the group from what little I saw of LoT3C; I barely knew it existed and now I just wanted more of Donald's antics with Panchito and Jose), so I came out satisfied anyway.

I'm looking forward to their next appearances, since they evidently already recorded dialogue for them in later episodes.

Edited by Etheru on Nov 12th 2018 at 6:05:39 AM

Since we’re apparently supposed to get Duckling!Donald at some point, who will voice him, I wonder? Maybe Russie Taylor?

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 12th 2018 at 12:12:12 PM

Dee Bradley Baker doing his Daffy voice.

x5 Once again, I think you're trying to turn this into a show that it isn't. In non-serialized shows like this, not every episode is going to fully take into account every single facet of a character's growth. For better or worse.

Edited by kkhohoho on Nov 12th 2018 at 10:56:00 AM

I kinda wish they would have made an Audrey II reference with the plant.

"For better or worse."

Even if that's what the writers intend to do, that doesn't exempt the show from criticism.

Especially since some particular writing choices lead to "for worse" rather than "for better".

Edited by BrightLight on Nov 13th 2018 at 12:12:13 AM

No one said it was exempt from criticism. It's just that not all of us agree that the changes are "for the worst."

Personally, I think what Dewey did in the episode wasn't out-of-character, especially since I know people who act like he did.

Also, Dewey’s character growth had nothing to do with his desire for fame and attention, it was about him learning not to forego his family in the process. When there was an episode that dealt with it, it ended with people deciding they should’ve given him more attention after all,

@Bright Light No one was out of character this episode. And I don't know how you could think anyone was.

That episode was Sky Pirates, and it's in contention for a Broken Base, amongst other of its writing flaws.

I only said Dewey was out of character, but that's been disproven.

There is still character regression to deal with though, and Scrooge and Donald suffer the most from that.

"They are so much better than you." Yuck.

"No lies. No tricks. No trouble." Hmm...

There's Vitriolic Best Buds banter and then there's downright mean or unsavoury remarks between Donald and Scrooge, or Donald, Jose and Panchito.

Edited by BrightLight on Nov 13th 2018 at 6:17:05 AM

Dude, lighten up. Rule of Funny.

That was a line from the very first episode. Are you really expecting it to be important enough to be a rule Donald lives by?

Edited by kkhohoho on Nov 12th 2018 at 11:23:45 AM

I wouldn't mind the more mean-spirited jokes if they weren't inserted at inopportune times.

In a lighthearted, episodic episode that has nothing special, they can be the highlight. (See Top Gear.)

But if timed and used incorrectly, mean-spirited jokes fall flat, or hurt the story and the characters.

The joke in "The Other Bin" felt out of place in one of the show's darkest episodes, not to mention making Louie Unintentionally Unsympathetic.

The jokes in "Game Night" feel Too Soon after the Character Development and emotional drama and family reconciliation in the Season 1 finale.

As for this episode, the 3 Caballeros fanbase upholds the trio's friendship as an idealistically pure one. So having this much mean-spiritedness crammed into something of a special episode did dampen it for many.

Even if Donald isn't above lying, the whole episode ran on a cliched, done-to-death plot.

Also, I don't care if Scrooge is a greedy old miser or a cranky old man, smashing Panchito's guitar at the end was uncalled for and definitely crossed the line.

Just look at the Reddit forum for the episode, and the fanbase there seems to already be split in half on these points.

ADDENDUM: For character-driven, mean-spirited humour that does work, look at "Terror of the Terra-firmians". The character at the butt of the jokes (Huey) has done something to deserve it, and there's mediation (aka moderation) in the form of a Straight Man (Lena and Louie).

The first Mark Beaks episode was also full of this, done well more or less.

Edited by BrightLight on Nov 13th 2018 at 6:43:42 AM