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MacronNotes Butterfly Queen from Pennsylvania Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Butterfly Queen
Mar 3rd 2019 at 8:33:34 AM

Oh since it was asked and no, no arcade endings in 6. But yeah It really sucks but don't think threes a high demand for that. I prefer the structure of the first 4 games where everyone had an individual story path.

Random but the game has a Trivia section of written exchanges between characters that weren't in the story. Most are comedic. There's one that suggests that Irene has a connection with Phase 4[[/spoiler

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:35:26 AM

ZeroDozer Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! from Santo André, SP, Brazil Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Mar 3rd 2019 at 9:06:14 AM

"Don't be dissing WolfThunder's wishlist. Oliver isn't exactly the worst pick either."

Eh, honestly I'm more gunning for Valkyrie Gundam Hazel as a WTF Guest Fighter. Green Arrow, Black Canary, and Clock King were all more "What-If" ideas I made for fun.

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
Mar 3rd 2019 at 12:09:48 PM

[up][up][up][up] And I completely agree with you on this.

If Helena had said to Nico something like: "What were you thinking, resurrecting a monster like Raidou and helping a madman like Donovan?", then I would have agreed 100% with her.

But what she actually said was something like: "Bringing people back to life is bad and wrong, because 'growing strong' and 'no turning back time', and you're bad and wrong for trying to do that."

It doesn't help that the rational and level-headed Nico suddenly devolves into a childish stuttering mess just so that it's clear who you're supposed to agree with.

FrozenWolf2 Avatar of War from Have you seen me?
Avatar of War
Mar 3rd 2019 at 12:15:58 PM

Its a very shonen anime mentality which is about sentiment over logic

which is ultimately the problem with Do A's story style is its writers are bog standard.

"But old memories seldom fade and bad habits die hard."
HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Mar 3rd 2019 at 12:18:17 PM

There's nothing wrong with sentiment, but if you keep using bullshit reasoning to prove it's better than logic, than you're only gonna make people punish sentiment even harder.

Once again, wokka wokka!
FrozenWolf2 Avatar of War from Have you seen me?
Avatar of War
Mar 3rd 2019 at 12:37:04 PM

well thats kinda the problem Do A has been very basic shonen writing for a while

I mean Ayane literally tries to kill herself over the fact Hayate slaps her for talking shit about Kasumi

This is the melodramatic overemotional mindset the writers have... its very highschool level writing

Its not what is right its what feels right

Granted Ni Co isn't proven wrong due to logic... the fact she went ahead and revived Raidou... even if her goal was to revive someone else the fact she cast her morals aside just to achieve her goal/get the support she needed by Shonen standards makes her wrong... another aspect of Shonen isn't you win, its do you have the right to win and can you win in the right way.

"But old memories seldom fade and bad habits die hard."
Darthwyn Slayer of Evil from The void Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Slayer of Evil
Mar 3rd 2019 at 1:02:49 PM

Too be fair Ayane wouldn't exactly be a great example, I get the feeling suicide has probably crossed her mind more than once through the course of her life.

She most certainly an emotional powder keg close to exploding based on her background.

Started the story mode and from the looks of things it is a combination of one main story and situations from different characters points of view.

I will say I do like the fact that her mother is sending letters to Kasumi.

"Senpai I can't exactly vanish into the night if you cling to my like this"
Mar 4th 2019 at 5:09:24 AM

An interview with Shimbori during the release.

Translated highlights from this tweet:

-Diego is popular in NA

-Possibility to add Gen Fu in the future

-Momiji & Rachel aren't here bc they're Ninja Gaiden chars

-We regrettably had to cut voices & about 30 episodes. We had ones for new chars, if this game hits we may add them

-Nyotengu has scenario

ZeroDozer Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! from Santo André, SP, Brazil Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
Mar 4th 2019 at 8:00:54 AM

"Momiji and Rachel aren't in the game because they're Ninja Gaiden chars"

Bullshit. If so, Ryu Hayabusa should be cut out as well. He's just the franchise's fucking protagonist.

Growing up, it's like a civil war, don't turn away, it's something you can't ignore...
Darthwyn Slayer of Evil from The void Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Slayer of Evil
Mar 4th 2019 at 8:07:50 AM

Considering he has been in more than one game which includes him winning the second tournament they wouldn't cut him from the roster anytime soon.

"Senpai I can't exactly vanish into the night if you cling to my like this"
ZeroDozer Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! from Santo André, SP, Brazil Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
Customer Forgetful Sleepyhead from Georgia Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Mar 4th 2019 at 10:25:29 AM

Hoo boy. Took about a couple week break from the internet last month and I come back to find that Team Ninja basically shot themselves in the foot regarding this game. Almost everything I'm looking at is making me feel a little relieved that I didn't have the spare change to get 6 on release. "A little" because, frankly, I love this series and want it to be more popular than it is right now, so I'm honestly more disappointed with what I've heard than anything else.

The game sounds like it has the Marvel vs Capcom Infinite problem of having stellar gameplay (I've been hearing that 6 has probably the best gameplay in the series) but everything else surrounding it puts it below standard on a lot of levels. Costume unlocks are absurdly tedious and the point system used to get them is annoyingly randomized, the mission mode that gives the most points to unlock costumes seem to be finite (like, you can't get more points by replaying them), the story mode is apparently more "anime" than people were expectingnote , the game is missing Tag Team (a series staple IMO), the arcade modes lacks an incentive to play it (no endings, and the amount of costume points you get for beating it is so small that you can't even use it as an alternative to grind them)...

And none of that gets into the things that happened outside of the game itself. I imagine the lack of online lobbies was due to some (misguided) attempt to get the game out for EVO this year, but I've heard that... "something" happened at the promotional event in Japan that may or may not have killed DOA 6's chances as being part of the lineup this timenote .

There's also the near-$100 "Season Pass". "1". Which... is just going to sour opinions even more, regardless of the intention of the Pass.

Ugh.

Sorry for the semi-rant. I'm just... really disappointed at the moment; I mostly found all this out a couple of days ago when I remembered that the game was out, so my reactions are probably more than a bit delayed.

Ultimately, I'll still buy the game eventually, but now it's a much lower priority (especially since I still have 5 Last Round to play through). I'm probably just going to wait for a sale or Gamefly it to see if it can stick with me first.

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ZeroDozer Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! from Santo André, SP, Brazil Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
Mar 4th 2019 at 12:12:52 PM

"Momiji & Rachel aren't here bc they're Ninja Gaiden chars"

Okay, what the hell? That just feels like needlessly limiting the roster. What, did they want Dead or Alive to stand on it's own and not want people to only check it out because Ninja Gaiden characters were in it? It's Kingdom Hearts III not having Final Fantasy characters all over again!

[up][up] "I'll be honest, I have no idea what people mean with this aside from using "anime" as a synonym for "bad" or "cliche"."

I'm frankly sick of people taking aspects from Shonen Anime and making jokes/claims that that's all Anime is. So, I like to make jokes about other formats and generalize aspects of them, just to see how it makes those people feel. "They came back to life? Oh, that is so Movie!" "Oh great, it's getting all Book in here because they're falling in love!" "They're trying to make us laugh? LOL, how Sitcom!"

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
Vespa from Digital Limbo Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Mar 4th 2019 at 1:28:11 PM

Shred of good news: a mid-March is supposed to take away the total randomness of costume parts: it’ll only be distributed between the costumes of the character you’re playing as.

So like... credit where it’s due, that’s a pretty quick response. Hopefully a similar turn-around can occur for other gripes people have.

"The effort you put forth to anything transcends yourself, for there is no futility even in death." -Monty Oum
Mar 4th 2019 at 2:30:31 PM

I'm frankly sick of people taking aspects from Shonen Anime and making jokes/claims that that's all Anime is. So, I like to make jokes about other formats and generalize aspects of them, just to see how it makes those people feel. "They came back to life? Oh, that is so Movie!" "Oh great, it's getting all Book in here because they're falling in love!" "They're trying to make us laugh? LOL, how Sitcom!"

You can blame shonen/bizarre/fetishy anime making itself known in the West for that.

Further, people already generalize works. "Rom-coms, chick-flicks, popcorn flicks." Generalizations help and hinder.

When I say something is "anime" I'm usually being satirical toward someone I know doesn't really watch it. It's easier to explain why characters have dramatic nosebleeds whenever a girl pulls up her socks, or why they always wield comically large weapons and charge into battle shouting, or why giant robots and high-minded philosophizing is so prevalent when you just say "it's really anime/Japanese."

Like people that call anything with a serious tone that they dislike "edgy" or "grimdark," anime has somehow become become synonymous with eccentric, odd hair style, peppy, young, and cute - which can just as easily be frowned upon in Western fanbases as it is praised.

Nico and Lucky Chloe are what I'd call the "anime" character of their fighting game because of that. That might not be correct but rarely does anyone cross-examine it.

It's not fair but neither is life I suppose.

Edited by Soble on Mar 4th 2019 at 2:31:27 AM

-deep breath- FIGH-TIIIIIIIING GOOOOOOOOLLLD!!!!
MacronNotes Butterfly Queen from Pennsylvania Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Butterfly Queen
Mar 4th 2019 at 3:32:05 PM

Random notes:

  • The Jiggle Physics meter is absent. Not that I care just thought it would still be there despite the attempt to move away from fan service
  • It's kinda annoying that most of the costumes that are given to you are color swaps. I feel like that's a waste of space and it would have been better to have them as alts. Yeah previous games had some color swapped costumes but it wasnt like this.
  • Was expecting Nico to be an Android not sure why.
  • I am really there is finally a simple to do back facing moves.
  • It seems the rest of the male character s besides Eliot can wear glasses now and the glasses aren't character exclusive.
  • I understand how the Story mode goes now. It's supposed to be one main storyline and then individual character scenes but it's still more confusing than it needs to be.

Darthwyn Slayer of Evil from The void Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Slayer of Evil
Mar 4th 2019 at 3:58:48 PM

Honestly the story wasn't all that confusing, but that could be because I play Kingdom Hearts.

Though I do like the fact that you can select who does the final battle. I selected Ayane the first time for it.

Though I am surprised Hitomi got not interaction with Hayate or the rest of the ninja sibling trio.

I do like that Kasumi and Ayane are on good enough terms that Ayane made Kasumi butterfly emergency contact.

Favorite not important detail of the story would be Kasumi getting letter(s) from her mother.

Though I do wonder if the arcade ladder final opponent random, character based or difficulty based because having Hitomi as the final opponent for Kasumi gave me a laugh.

"Senpai I can't exactly vanish into the night if you cling to my like this"
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA
vicarious
Mar 4th 2019 at 5:31:32 PM

So if I got this right:

This game is basically Raidou gets resurrected the game?

agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Mar 4th 2019 at 10:32:31 PM

The story wasn't confusing, but it was all over the place. The main focus at the end of the day was Nico IMO, but I like to think DOA 6's story finally meant Ayane burying the hatchet with Kasumi for good.

Darthwyn Slayer of Evil from The void Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Slayer of Evil
Mar 4th 2019 at 10:45:05 PM

Indeed the only thing left now is for Kasumi to be able to actually go home.

"Senpai I can't exactly vanish into the night if you cling to my like this"
Mar 4th 2019 at 11:48:18 PM

[up] She didn't. She just teleported away from Ayane and Hayatw after watching some fireflies.

Speaking of Kasumi, what I found baffling was that we have her not hunting Donovan as 5's ending indicated. Instead, she's reading letters that are from her mother Ayame, implying Shiden died and that Kasumi was to visit, which led to Phase-4s ambushing her.

Darthwyn Slayer of Evil from The void Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Slayer of Evil
Mar 5th 2019 at 12:34:55 AM

I know that's what happened I finished the game. That is why I said the only thing left is for her to be allowed to go home.

"Senpai I can't exactly vanish into the night if you cling to my like this"
agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Mar 5th 2019 at 2:28:30 AM

Shiden passed away, when did that happen?


Instead of waiting for an entire expansion pack or new game it would be really nice if there more DLC story mode chapters. I really rather not wait another 7 years to get to point C.


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