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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4076: Aug 17th 2021 at 10:58:24 AM

I would actually be pretty on-board for the Suicide Squad as a anthology of different directors. A while back there was the rumour of Guy Ritchie doing a Suicide Squad film, and his filmography has always been noted for cartoonish, colorful criminals. He'd fit right in.

Imagine the Squad being introduced in this vein:

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4077: Aug 17th 2021 at 1:26:40 PM

Wes Anderson's Suicide Squad in the vein of this SNL sketch.

Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 17th 2021 at 3:36:33 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4078: Aug 17th 2021 at 4:26:52 PM

An anthology based approach would be great considering how malleable the Squad concept is.

Each movie would be a standalone cast featuring different members each time and any breakout stars could get a spin-off.

Would love to see like say a Secret Six adaptation with King Shark, Bloodsport, and Ratcatcher II.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
NotGrantMorrison Since: Jul, 2014
#4079: Aug 18th 2021 at 2:39:38 AM

I have to say just how brilliant Ostrander's take on the Squad is. It's a marketable brand made up of references to other brands with an endlessly flexible cast and a general lack of plot armor or revivals superhero stories are full of.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4080: Aug 18th 2021 at 6:55:10 AM

The thing about the Squad moving forward is that I feel like it'll be increasingly difficult to maintain the Anyone Can Die attitude organically without falling into a formula.

Like, I think TSS did the right thing by making Boomerang a Sacrificial Lion; he's one of few returning characters, he was genuinely liked, and killing him early on made it clear anyone (... but Harley) could die.

That said, I would imagine it would be impossibly tempting to just repeat that formula.

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#4081: Aug 18th 2021 at 1:38:32 PM

I can see what you mean. If a hypothetical sequel kills off one of the popular members of the surviving Squad it won't feel as shocking given this one already pulled that trick. Same if they try creating a Cannon Fodder squad to kill of completely.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4082: Aug 18th 2021 at 1:40:19 PM

thats why you use clones,to justify them coming back!Its a thing in comics

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#4083: Aug 19th 2021 at 4:19:08 PM

Back from the theater. Random observations:

  • Everyone and their mom probably pointed it out already but… Why is Deadshot called Bloodsport this time around?
  • The US government being perfectly fine with a brutal dictatorship until it becomes a thorn in their side and they suddenly remember they support democracy… Yeah, that sounds about right.
  • Although, considering Waller also tells the SS the Suicide Squad to slaughter freedom fighters, I doubt Corto Maltese’s new democratic government will be in Washington’s good graces either.
  • I like Polka’s character, but I wish they did something more creative with his powers than "glorified laser beams".
  • Harley seems to become more "super" with each movie. I can live with that.
  • How many rats are there in this goddamn city? I suppose it’s pretty poor and dirty but come on.
  • King Shark is so… jarring. He’s funny and all, but he seems to come straight out of a cartoon.
  • Really liked Ratcatcher and Sebastian. They had the best balance between funny and genuinely emotional out of all the characters I think.
  • Not everyone in mission control is as batshit insane as Waller, which is… reassuring? I guess?

All in all, I’d say this was, well, the first movie but done right. More or less. The tone can still be very jarring at times − like that rebel leader. Look, girl, your comrades have just been massacred by a team of unhinged Americans, can’t you at least… protest or cry or react like a human being? At least not trust them immediately? But at least this movie doesn’t forget to remind us that the Squad members aren’t supposed to be nice people.

So yea, this was the best Marvel movie I’ve seen in a while.

…Wait. >.>

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#4084: Aug 19th 2021 at 4:21:21 PM

Bloodsport is a different guy in the comics. A guy that can basically make any kind of gun he can think of and messes with Superman. And the reason he is used instead of Deadshot is that, well, they kind of leave the door open if they ever have a chance of working with Will Smith again.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4085: Aug 19th 2021 at 4:24:55 PM

Well technically his power is that he has a warehouse full of guns and has the ability to instantly teleport them to his arms. The movie gives him the different power of nano-tech guns that achieves the same effect.

[up][up] Yeah King Shark feeling like a total cartoon character is great. Really sells the setting as a casually super, something thats been really lacking in superhero movies.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 19th 2021 at 4:26:40 AM

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#4086: Aug 19th 2021 at 4:26:11 PM

Given that the Resistance was almost certainly targeted deliberately and the first squad was almost certainly intended to all die, I feel like Waller probably would’ve had Peacemaker kill the second squad even if they hadn’t discovered the Dirty Little Secrets, for maximum plausible deniability.

Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#4087: Aug 19th 2021 at 4:26:57 PM

I also like the casual super-fication of Harley, since it helps sell that she is a person who used to semi-frequently fight Batman.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4088: Aug 19th 2021 at 4:36:46 PM

Okay about the whole changing to Bloodsport incase Smith decided he ever wanted to come back.

Is anyone that attached to Smith's performance to want him to return to the character or would you be okay with someone else having a shot at playing Floyd?

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4089: Aug 19th 2021 at 5:14:45 PM

I wouldn’t say attached, more like he and Robbie were two of the few actors who came out of that movie with their dignities intact.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#4090: Aug 19th 2021 at 6:11:35 PM

Will Smith was considered one of the few saving graces of the original even if he was just being, well, Will Smith.

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 19th 2021 at 9:11:47 AM

Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#4091: Aug 19th 2021 at 6:31:40 PM

Considering that The Suicide Squad bombed at the box office, I doubt that WB will greenlight a sequel but they would continue the story of the Corto Maltese Squad through spin-offs (i.e. Peacemaker and other tie-in material).

NotGrantMorrison Since: Jul, 2014
#4092: Aug 19th 2021 at 10:17:47 PM

A third Squad film could do Dwindling Party as a gimmick.

You can also hinge it on a compelling MC like Jason Todd or Bronze Tiger or Helena Bartinili.

In this age of streaming and covid I doubt a poor box office is enough to doom a property alone.

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#4093: Aug 19th 2021 at 10:18:28 PM

I was thinking dwindling party for a Suicide Squad movie. Lean into horror.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#4094: Aug 19th 2021 at 10:25:00 PM

Good way to escalate from decoy squad getting wiped.

Truly go all in on everyone at risk of dying and don't get attached by actually leaving at most a sole survivor.

[up][up] As said the movie is acclaimed and not a punching bag like the first one so that helps.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 19th 2021 at 10:26:00 AM

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#4095: Aug 20th 2021 at 3:02:18 AM

@Chrononaut 70 So long as the COVID-19 pandemic rages wild across certain states and territories, the box office is no longer a reliable indication of success. Especially with a resurgence in the Delta variant.

This is the reality that a lot of box office analysts seem to refuse to accept.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#4096: Aug 20th 2021 at 4:00:20 AM

The Health Pass in places like France doesn’t help either. Not only are a lot of people not vaccinated yet (and won’t be before a month or two at least), a lot of people who are refuse to use their pass in protest.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4097: Aug 20th 2021 at 5:41:45 AM

> How many rats are there in this goddamn city? I suppose it’s pretty poor and dirty but come on.

rats multiple like crazy this checks out

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#4098: Aug 20th 2021 at 6:18:32 AM

The Harley Quinn movie was a bomb and this still happened. I don’t think box office numbers are as much of a big thing nowadays.

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#4099: Aug 20th 2021 at 6:20:53 AM

Tbf this movie was already in production at the time so I'm not sure they could have liked stop production or anything.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#4100: Aug 20th 2021 at 6:23:54 AM

Also, I'm pretty sure the movie did good numbers on HBO Max, which seems to be WB's priority atm.


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