Right. I had forgotten him, although he wasn't a psychiatrist/psychologist until after the Crisis on Infinite Earths. The original versions from Earth One and Two were just criminal masterminds with an unspecified doctorate.
Jonathan Crane seems too fixated on a single behavior trait as to count as a good student of psychology even if we discard his sociopathy.
Although, if we can count Elseworlds, the best psychiatrist to ever grace a Batman book is Bruce Wayne
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So who was gonna make that petition to shut down change.org again?
Generally speaking, it's pretty unusual to have a phd begore you're 24 (four years of college, plus 2 for post grad work) which would not have given her long to practice before she got seduced by the Joker, if she's supposed to be 26; I seriously doubt they would have put a first year rookie shrink in with the Joker. I mean, it'd have to be graduate, get a job at Arkham, get seduced by the Joker after less then 6 months on the job. As indicated in "Mad Love" she probably did sleep her way to better grades, but she still would have had to turn work in, even if it was crappy work with "adjusted" grades. She could have gotten her degree early if she'd taken coursework over the summer and whatnot (perhaps she did, she seems like she could have been pretty driven) but 26 seems too young for her to have done everything she's done.
edited 9th Aug '16 10:36:45 PM by Robbery
It should be noted that Margot Robbie is 26, but Harley's exact age is never stated (at least I don't think it is in the film). And speaking as a 20 year old guy who's about a year and a half away from his Bachelor's degree, bucketloads of AP and Dual Enrollment classes in high school can speed up your time in college quite a bit. So going by that ![]()
hypothetical, I could get a PHD by 26 myself (though I'm most certainly overestimating myself, my Film major is probably a joke compared to a Psychology major). Still, it isn't that unfeasible given the right circumstances, and couple that with the fact that Harley's probably a smarter-than-average comicbook character to begin with and has her looks to boot, it's even more feasible for her.
Though again, it's unclear whether she's meant to be Robbie's age in the film or if it's just Underage Casting.
Edit: Oh, she is 26 according to the rap sheet, my bad.
edited 9th Aug '16 11:07:45 PM by HisInfernalMajesty
"A king has no friends. Only subjects and enemies."Saw it again. Dropping it to a 6/10.
First time I saw it with my gf, and maybe that's the reason the flaws didn't pop out to me. This time I saw it by myself and it was jarring as fuck moving from scene to scene. Some transitions didn't even make spacial sense. This movie was fucking butchered in editing. Ayer says this is his movie, but it makes no sense when Fury and End of Watch are such slow movies, while this is break-neck speed.
WB fucked this one up good.
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Yeah I feel the same way too.
Hell, as Terry Mc Ginnins from Batman Beyond showed us you don't actually need a degree to figure the Joker out.
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Saw it last night and I have to agree. Some seriously weird editing choices made with this movie. The friend I saw it with thought that it came out as a totally different movie around the middle, so I wonder if that was a cause.
In terms of the plot, some of the movie just felt superfluous. Joker didn't need to be in this movie, beyond some flashbacks, and Enchantress was one of the blandest movie antagonists I've ever seen, even worse than Doom in Fant4stic.
At least with Enchantress, she wasn't "in costume" until the last act of the movie. And at least when Jane broke that artifact, it's not she knew it contained a demoness. Also her motivations is comprehensible "I want humans to worship me again"
Meanwhile with 4Doom, it's "I'm gonna explore an entirely different and unknown planet under a fit of drunken jealously despite me having a super high IQ because...... LOL" And "Government and big businesses are gonna ruin my new planet so I'm gonna destroy all of humanity because.... LOL"
edited 10th Aug '16 7:50:46 AM by NoName999
How 'Suicide Squad' Showcases Nasty Side of Fandom in 2016
It's an article talking about the rather extreme critical backlash from fans of Suicide Squad, and how the fandom mentality possibly formed into that. It's still weird to me that some DCEU fans really feel like there's a conspiracy to put down their films just because professional critics don't seem to like them.
Meanwhile with 4Doom, it's "I'm gonna explore an entirely different and unknown planet under a fit of drunken jealously despite me having a super high IQ because...... LOL" And "Government and big businesses are gonna ruin my new planet so I'm gonna destroy all of humanity because.... LOL"
That, and it's only natural to expect better, deeper characterization from Dr. Doom than from the Enchantress. Because one is Dr. Motherfreakin' Doom, Marvel's Premier Villain, and the other is the Enchantress.
But not impossible. Seriously, this could have done away with her, Flag, Croc, and Boomerang.

Hugo Strange is usually portrayed as a pretty good psychiatrist. The problem is while he can diagnose people expertly and could probably cure them, he has absolutely zero interest in curing people. His goal is using them as pawns to his games.
Arkahm City is probably the best example. Hugo correctly dianogses pretty much everyone's psychological problem, down to the Joker and Batman. He even notes he can cure Two-Face but ultimately just plain doesn't want to.
So it's not that Gotham psychiatrists are bad at their job, it's probably more that they're sociopaths.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."