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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
Mr. Dr.
#1: Oct 29th 2014 at 12:47:11 PM

I know this topic is being discussed in the MCU thread but considering how badass this comic is, I think it deserves its own thread.

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Note: I would be thrilled if this thread is kept up in the next 4-5 years tongue

edited 29th Oct '14 1:02:35 PM by Mattonymy

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2: Oct 29th 2014 at 12:51:29 PM

That's why you should have waited to make it. This thread is currently redundant with the MCU thread and the four year gap between now and part 1s release.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
Mr. Dr.
#3: Oct 29th 2014 at 12:52:38 PM

Eh, if the Hobbit can be created two years before it's conception, I don't see why this shouldn't exist.

Not to mention that now we know all the films are leading up to this, it's a good way to document everything in Phase 2-3.

edited 29th Oct '14 12:54:55 PM by Mattonymy

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#4: Oct 29th 2014 at 12:55:01 PM

In this case let's summon up what we know:

1. Thanos is the final enemy.

2. The infinity gauntlet is in Odin's Vault.

3. As is the Tesseract, which is the space stone.

4. The aether (being the reality stone?) was brought to the collector who is looking for more pieces.

5. The orb (power stone) is in possession of the Nova Corps.

6. The sceptre might or might not be another one, the mind stone.

7. A popular fan theory is that Thanos name consists of the initials of the objects.

edited 29th Oct '14 12:55:23 PM by swanpride

Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
Mr. Dr.
#5: Oct 29th 2014 at 12:58:47 PM

[up]Also likely is that the stones shown in "Thor the Dark World" are fake, considering the Tessearact is confirmed as the only stone Asgard has under its current supervision.

I'm also curious who they'll cast as Death.

Also, I know this will never happen but I'd love it if all the other Marvel film properties could join in a la Roger Rabbit.

edited 29th Oct '14 1:01:29 PM by Mattonymy

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6: Oct 29th 2014 at 1:04:17 PM

I just want the Thanoscopter

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#7: Oct 29th 2014 at 1:08:31 PM

Perhaps they leave out the death part...I think it might be a little bit difficult to sell the common audience death as an existing person.

foodbattle ...What the brown? from Tahiti (it's a magical place) Since: Oct, 2009
...What the brown?
#8: Oct 29th 2014 at 1:10:02 PM

[up] I'm thinking they should have Death in, but Thanos is the only one who sees her, as if he's hallucinating. They could have it be kind of vague in a Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane department, but overall it should seem like she's a figment of Thanos's imagination. That'll make him really seem like a Mad Titan.

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kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#9: Oct 29th 2014 at 1:12:42 PM

If they're introducing Strange and his associated mythology I don't see the issue with Death being a physical entity. I like the idea that only Thanos can see her though.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#10: Oct 29th 2014 at 1:31:21 PM

Is there anything special about the Infinity Gauntlet itself without the Infinity Stones? Does it let him play "Rad Racer" really good? Because if not, the film might not reference its brief cameo in Thor and just have him use any other glove of his.

edited 29th Oct '14 1:56:03 PM by Tuckerscreator

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#11: Oct 29th 2014 at 1:42:37 PM

In the comics, Thanos made it himself to contain the stones. Other than that its unimportant.

Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
Mr. Dr.
#12: Oct 29th 2014 at 2:18:30 PM

Since these film is essentially an all-in-one franchise movie, and it's produced by Disney, I hope they allow Big Hero 6 into it. Would make zero sense and is completely blasphemous to the source material but if Disney is willing to allow Anna and Elsa into Once Upon a Time, this seems reasonable.

I would also kill to see Hiro interact with Tony Stark.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#13: Oct 29th 2014 at 2:31:45 PM

Big Hero 6 is going to be a no no. Not only did they not brand it as a Marvel movie but allegedly there was some major tension between Disney and Marvel Studios over the film period.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#14: Oct 29th 2014 at 2:48:13 PM

Marvel doesn't even want it anymore after Disney reworked everything.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#15: Oct 29th 2014 at 3:23:49 PM

Baymax versus Thanos? PFFFFF-

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#16: Oct 29th 2014 at 3:37:16 PM

[up][up]Marvel was fine with the reworking. What Marvel wasn't fine with was Disney opting for a wider audience rather than making it darker and more adult.

WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#17: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:14:59 PM

The trailer showed the tesseract, staff, orb, and aether, so we can reasonably assume that each of them is an Infinity Stone. No reason to put the staff in the trailer otherwise. Has Loki still got the staff, or where is it?

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#18: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:16:21 PM

As of The Winter Soldier, Loki's staff is with Baron Von Strucker and the remnant of HYDRA in Europe.

Hm, Age of Ultron is supposed to begin with the Avengers storming that base, right? And I think the trailer shown in yesterday's Agents of SHIELD had a brief shot of what looked like Loki's staff gem.

edited 29th Oct '14 4:17:48 PM by Tuckerscreator

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#20: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:17:00 PM

I would not be surprised if the Gauntlet shown in Thor has been quietly retconned. It appeared for all of five seconds and this was probably before they knew Phase 2 and 3 were going to heavily revolve around the Stones.

Alternatively I had a theory maybe it is the real Gauntlet that Odin wrested from Thanos eons ago, but the actual stones in it are just replicas.

edited 29th Oct '14 4:17:08 PM by comicwriter

WarriorEowyn from Victoria Since: Oct, 2010
#21: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:19:50 PM

So the current owners of the stones are Asgard (tesseract; Space), Collector (aether; Reality), Nova Corps (orb; Power) and HYDRA (staff/sceptre; Mind).

Also, if the Thanos-acronym theory is correct, we're looking for objects starting with "H" and "N" in the Phase 3 films, and they'll probably be the Time and Soul gems. I'd guess they'll show up in two of Doctor Strange, Guardians 2, and Thor: Ragnarok.

edited 29th Oct '14 4:20:25 PM by WarriorEowyn

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#22: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:21:13 PM

The trailer showed the tesseract, staff, orb, and aether, so we can reasonably assume that each of them is an Infinity Stone.

Not necessarily. The staff matches the Tesseract in color and was explicitly mentioned to be connected to the Tesseract. We've already seen the colors of all the stones, and there isn't another blue one. Don't know why they'd put it in the trailer either, but until one of the movies confirms it we have more evidence against it being a stone than we have for it being one.

This is putting aside, of course, the supreme idiocy that would be Thanos giving Loki one of the stones.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#23: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:22:37 PM

Mirroring the Cube in color doesn't mean anything. It could just be the actual Stone hidden inside the staff like the purple Power Stone hidden in the Silver Orb. The "Connection" could just be to the set of Stones in general since they actively search for each other, as was alluded to in the Dark World.

I don't know why there's so much controversy over this. They made a point of putting it right up there with the other Stones and people have been commenting on the similarities to the Mind Stone for a while now.

edited 29th Oct '14 4:24:19 PM by comicwriter

Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
Will kill you
#24: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:24:48 PM

Giddy as hell to see this flick.

Also according to my associates on another forum Marvel studio in talk with Sony to include Spider-Man. I sincerely hope the same for Silver Surfer and X-men characters in the film as well.

edited 29th Oct '14 4:25:54 PM by Couchpotato20

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CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#25: Oct 29th 2014 at 4:29:20 PM

Mirroring the Cube in color doesn't mean anything. It could just be the actual Stone hidden inside the staff like the purple Power Stone hidden in the Silver Orb.

Not true. In every case, the stone's energy color is the same as its actual color. Power Stone gives off purple energy, not silver. The staff gives off blue energy, ergo it is likely related to the blue Tesseract (as stated in the film), and not the Mind Gem.

edited 29th Oct '14 4:30:32 PM by CorrTerek


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