I mean it hasn’t been outright confirmed, but it’s a very safe assumption that the power that requires a willing transfer can’t be stolen by AFO, notwithstanding its uniqueness. Why hasn’t he stolen it before if he could? He’s outright killed most of its holders or at least beaten them to near-death right before their desperate transfer to the next holder, so if he had the capacity to do so, he definitely had chances.
I’m not saying that it won’t happen or that it’s impossible, just that I’m looking forward to the explanation if that’s the case, since it basically breaks the rules of OFA as we know it.
Edited by ILikeRobots on Apr 16th 2020 at 2:09:12 AM
Adventurers: homeless people who steal from tombs and kill things.Yeah, not sure I’m explaining myself well, I’m not disputing what the doctor said, what it means or that that’s his goal; how it’ll work vs. the willingness clause is what I’m mostly wondering about.
Since we’ve had so many blocks preventing people from copying OFA or replicating it, being able to say no to the clause is a huge deal, and I’m intensely curious as to how it would work.
Adventurers: homeless people who steal from tombs and kill things.Af O must have tried to steal Of A at some point. Otherwise how could the doctor know that he can't?
But here's an alternate theory: what if he did steal Of A and he just couldn't handle the combined power of both quirks?
If you check out the entire conversation in Chapter 246, the doctor is actually going on about quirk singularity, how the 'memory' needs to match the 'software' or else quirks will eventually go out of control, how that was a big issue for Af O specifically, etc.
To me the implication seems to be that whatever he's going to do with Shigaraki has to do with that.
Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Apr 16th 2020 at 3:09:19 AM
I actually thought it would be interesting if Eri could restore Mirio's quirk, but only by reverting him to early childhood, before he developed his quirk. If Mirio accepts that offer, he'd get his quirk back, but the price would be turning into a small child, with no means of turning back except by The Slow Path.
If he gets to keep his memories (and as noted earlier in this thread, Eri doesn't seem to affect memories), then that would be a pretty good deal.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.This doesn't contradict what Cozzer said in any way whatsoever? In fact the fact that the bullets have modified Eri's quirk factor to only target your quirk factor is exactly what Cozzer said. It's also how Overhaul himself describes it, so I'm not sure what there even is to argue. The fact that people who haven't been hit by a bullet don't have bullet wounds is both blatantly obvious to everyone and completely unrelated to anything being discussed.
Edited by Druplesnubb on Apr 16th 2020 at 2:40:00 PM
Can't really go in depth right now but:
1) the misunderstanding has already been hashed out.
2) No, Eri did not make his Quirk go away herself, and her power being a part of what made it does not mean it inherently follow her power can undue it.
3) That's just straight up wrong. Izuku's legs were never "straight up gone" and, to me her rewinding things back to before they are broken is very different from her rewinding things back into existence which she would have to do because some of All Might's organs are just straight up gone. And we have been given no instance to believe she would create new ones with her power.
Edited by LSBK on Apr 16th 2020 at 8:01:03 AM
Wait, Eri rewinding All Might back to having OFA? Eh, not sure about that.
That would basically create two One For Alls at a time, which...feels weird? One For All can't exactly be duplicated or copied as we see, since Monoma's attempt didn't do it.
Maybe she would put him in an OFA-like state rather than having the Quirk again? Even that feels awkward. She might be able to regenerate/restore his injuries, but giving him OFA again is probably off the table.
Adventurers: homeless people who steal from tombs and kill things.I thought Monoma did copy OFA, it was just completely useless because it's a stockpile Quirk and he couldn't copy the stockpile.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.Yeah. It's a stockpile Quirk fundamentally, but it's evolved way past that at this point. Just how it developed sentience and all of the mystical magical stuff it does is up in the air, but Monoma couldn't replicate that part of it either, which is why I think it's kinda immune to stuff that would duplicate or copy it.
Adventurers: homeless people who steal from tombs and kill things.Yeah. Monoma himself understood why it didn't work when he tried to copy Eri's quirk and realized it worked on a similar stockpile principle.
Deku also commented to himself that it was a good thing Monoma failed since there was no way he'd be ready for the backlash of power.
One Strip! One Strip!Fair enough. The base, "regular" (relatively speaking) architecture of the Quirk is what he couldn't replicate, but the mystical part is what keeps it out of the hands of people that aren't designated wielders is what I mean. Basically my idea is that the mystical part would keep it from being copied and exist twice if Eri tried to rewind All Might back to his OFA state.
Edited by ILikeRobots on Apr 16th 2020 at 6:22:57 AM
Adventurers: homeless people who steal from tombs and kill things.Okay wow this one is so good, I thought it was an official stay home thing.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tlieilt_625p/status/1250804087286665216
Which, combined with its ability to collect the Quirks of users, is actually pretty good. If he had never received the stockpiling Quirk from AFO (and found out how his Quirk worked, somehow), One For All still would have been a powerful ability. The stockpiling Quirk was just a lot more visible than the rest of it.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.I would assume the Doctor's method of retrieving OFA is whatever method he uses to copy quirks in the first place. Because while AFO makes the nomu process easier, the doctor CAN do it without him. And we saw he copied Twice without killing Bubaigawara, so if Shigaraki can beat and get his hands on Izuku, OFA is within his reach. No need for a souped up AFO or anything.
Sure, but we don't know exactly when the doctor started copying quirks. Nomu are a relatively recent invention from what it seems, and prior to that AFO could not beat All Might. So before AFO's defeat they could not get the quirk, and after AFO's defeat they could not beat the user to get the quirk.
Presumably, if All Might had lost to AFO, they would've stolen OFA. At which point they'd have the two strongest quirks in the world, and nothing would be out of reach ever again.
After all, OFA and AFO together means that the user can steal any quirk and add it to their own permanently.
Edited by devak on Apr 16th 2020 at 8:21:25 PM

I mean, I don't necessarily agree with that either. Stealing Quirks is AFO's thing; that OFA normally requires the users willingness to transfer shouldn't inherently mean that AFO can't steal it. It does seem to mean that, but I wouldn't really be surprised if it wasn't the case. Neither of these things are normal Quirks to begin with.
But, like, The Doctor straight up said "after these four months, everything will be yours, even One For All". There aren't a lot of other ways for that to be taken.