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TitanJump Be thorough, be curious...be human. Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Be thorough, be curious...be human.
Feb 16th 2020 at 11:14:23 AM

[up] Like how he did at the final fight with Overhaul?

(When Deku's first punch hit the monstrosity so hard that the guy, for all intents and purposes, watched his whole life play in up in front of his eyes when he momentarily passed out from the blow, before snapping out from it and carry on?)

Madness: an author's most magnificent muse and house maid.
Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Feb 16th 2020 at 11:16:09 AM

[up][up][up] He'll probably have his backstory revealed, with some insight on why he is such a monster, but the moment he gets beaten into a mush is gonna be triumphant.

Feb 16th 2020 at 11:17:22 AM

As long as remains twisted, it's fine I guess.

sgamer82 from Middleton, ID
Feb 16th 2020 at 11:22:33 AM

Unrelated, and possibly better suited to the anime thread except I'm not sure it counts as a spoiler:

I was watching the latest dubbed episodes with my roommate last night and noticed, along with that early shot of someone (I've been presuming is Eri) casting off a sweater in the opening, towards the end there's a very quick, blink and you miss it shot of Aizawa holding that same sweater.

That's when I realized not only was that first shot indeed Eri, but that sweater is one Aizawa picked for her, going along with those manga profiles showing his God-awful taste in children's clothes.

Found a pic of the sequence and the manga profile

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 16th 2020 at 12:27:45 PM

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Feb 16th 2020 at 12:39:58 PM

Now, I'm just curious if Horikoshi is going to humanize the Doctor too. Because while villains getting that isn't that rare, I think villains like him, specifically, having scenes and flashbacks like he did in this chapter is unusual.

Mad scientists being shown to have a twisted affection for their "creations" isn't a new trope actually.

[up] Oof, that's harsh. [lol]

Flippé de participer à ce grand souper, je veux juste m'occuper de taper mon propre tempo.
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Feb 16th 2020 at 12:40:35 PM

I think Hori realized he struck gold with Mirko after her introduction, cause this is a whole lot of focus she's getting. Not that I'm complaining, she's fun.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Feb 16th 2020 at 12:45:46 PM

[up][up]That's not the only thing I'm taking from this, though.

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 16th 2020 at 1:13:31 PM

At least Miruko has Crust to help her now.

But damn this is gonna be the most brutal battle of her entire career.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Feb 16th 2020 at 1:18:47 PM

Wonder what the just graduated Heroes feel about being the generation when everything got so messed up.

HailMuffins Degenerate Supreme from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Degenerate Supreme
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:36:22 PM

"So waking the High Ends suddenly like that is nerfing them to manageable levels."

Wait... so what was the point of them being High Ends? A normal Noumu was able to give All Might some trouble. So it's not like the High End classification is needed for some Noumus to be more dangerous than others.

Edited by GNinja on Feb 16th 2020 at 10:39:05 AM

Kaze ni Nare!
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:38:19 PM

I mean, it seems like they need some time to adjust or something since he brought up Hood needing 10 hours. But they're still enough to stall Mirko even half awake if I'm understanding this properly?

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:38:31 PM

[up][up] That wasn't a normal Nomu.

It was an extremely specialized Nomu built for the explicit purpose of defeating All Might.

We see normal Nomu's later in the Stain arc & they are all shown to be nowhere near as strong as the one All Might fought.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 16th 2020 at 2:39:07 AM

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:38:48 PM

The first High End had time to learn. He was even sent out to learn from experience.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 16th 2020 at 2:41:43 AM

Feb 16th 2020 at 2:41:37 PM

Yes, we're explicitly told the first Nomu we see is the strongest one they had at the time. We've also seen plenty of other "normal" Nomus and they're not particularly stand out.

I don't know where the idea that the norm for them is amazingly strong would come from.

Edited by LSBK on Feb 16th 2020 at 4:42:07 AM

RebelFalcon Fed up with humanity from sleeping in your bed Relationship Status: Abstaining
Fed up with humanity
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:42:54 PM

It's the difference between a newborn baby and a teenager. One is freshly born, has no experience, and it's very unlikely they even know how to communicate. The other has had time to gain experience, develop a personality, just grow in general. Normal Nomu are the newborn babies, Hood is the teenager. These High Ends are therefore more akin to toddlers. They may have some knowledge such as the one who knows Crust and can somewhat communicate, but they lack actual experience and haven't fully developed.

I'm a Falcon, not Faction. Like Kurosaki from ARC-V. My Servants.
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:43:24 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] You think they're going to do a thing where the High Ends fully awaken partway through the fight and become nigh unstoppable again.

It just seems so weird to me to introduce a new type of Noumu that's terrifying speciically because of how powerful it is, then nerf it.

[up][up] Read what I said. I said that precedent already exists for certain Noumu to be stronger than others without the High End label. So I'm not sure why the High End classification is needed for Noumu that are NOT extremely powerful.

Edited by GNinja on Feb 16th 2020 at 10:45:18 AM

Kaze ni Nare!
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:45:11 PM

Why are you assuming they aren't still super strong? Not a full capacity is not the same thing as weak. It's just a reason for the Heroes to have a chance because, well, they kind of have to or there is no story.

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:46:11 PM

Because there's 5 High-Ends now & one was all it took to nearly kill Endeavor the strongest hero.

Its good narrative sense to provide the heroes a better chance for victory against such overwhelming opponents.

[up][up] There is no such precedent. Only 1 Nomu was that strong & he was a mindless beast that required to be given orders. The High-Ends are superior for being capable of autonomous thought.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 16th 2020 at 2:50:45 AM

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:48:05 PM

It's not like we don't know things will go south hard for the heroes. Now, they have them temporarily on the back foot, but we know that won't last.

[up] Hawks, the second biggest hero around, was there too and had to run out of ammo to help him.

Edited by Blueace on Feb 16th 2020 at 7:49:54 AM

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:53:37 PM

[up][up] The High Ends being set up as that bad is why I don't like nerfing them. MULTIPLE High Ends should be a titanic holy shit moment requiring ridiculous effort to defeat. The narrative shouldn't bend to needing less than that amount of effort to fight them.

It's why I'm hoping they eventually wake up proper.

Edited by GNinja on Feb 16th 2020 at 10:54:15 AM

Kaze ni Nare!
slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:54:52 PM

Your saying that like it already won't take titanic amounts of effort to beat them.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:57:00 PM

You know that's not realistic right? If every Noumu was that powerful, the Heroes would literally have no way of winning. Its why they specified that the Noumu that fought All Might was explicitly modified for him, hence others are weaker.

Having every High End Nomu be as strong as Hood would just break the narrative given the current Number one hero was barely able to win, and he's literally the strongest character present at this moment in time.

If one Nomu was too much for Endeavor, the literal strongest hero, what possible way would the other heroes have to win?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Feb 16th 2020 at 2:57:04 PM

Okay, G Ninja, what would you prefer? Because you didn't address my point of "the heroes need to have a chance or there's no story"


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